Freya, you are about 8 years too late on TikTok and 18 years too late for other social media... the genie is out of bottle and for a long time. You cannot just say "keep your daughter off social media" -- HOW WOULD YOU DO THIS? a smartphone is required in nearly every school for homework, uploading assignments, school calendars, notification of tests, etc. Kids know every trick to get around parent controls; most know more about the technology than their parents do!
Even if you took away your child's phone... their friends all have phones. You can BUY a burner phone for maybe $10 and get phone cards (minutes) at any convenience store. Libraries ALL have computers, schools ALL have computers.
I am not saying I like or approve of this, I think it is horrible. It's just that the time for outrage and controls was ... years & years ago. And we did nothing and here we are in 2023. Soon to be 2024.
BTW: even in Jurassic period when I grew up (70s), I was quite aware of things like my dad's Playboy magazines and sexualized images on TV and in films. I was keenly aware of what was desirable to MEN, and what things they utterly despised ... and what women had to do to get male attention ("the male gaze").
The biggest differences though were that A. it wasn't 24/7 or in the privacy of my own bedroom on a phone and B. there were COUNTERBALANCES in life... it was absent entirely at school... there were religious affiliations (Sunday school, church, synagogue. etc.) where more wholesome and respectful ideals were presented. I think that is painfully lacking today. Even schools, once places free of sexualization... are now hotbeds of gender/sex ideology and graphic sexual books in libraries.
I am up for ANYBODY'S ideas on how to change or even moderate this... ideas?
You got me. I will say healthy hobbies and team sports can be of help. Get girls motivated out of doors and not glued to a screen. Boost their egos and compliment their accomplishments. Don't be too busy to keep an eye out and participate in their lives. I know this sounds like fantasyland but we can try
Good ideas... I would agree that sports... art... music! are all very healthy outlets and away from computers and media as much as possible.
However, in my own grandkids I have noted they are/were far more interested in video gaming, than in being out of doors. ZERO interest in camping and it appears that Scouting (in a formal sense) is nearly dead today.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
The Old Testament reading is a command and should be taken in context - by comparison the Hadith (.. 'source of guidance and understanding of Islamic teachings' ) is an oft quoted Command re the advancement of Islam.
If schools are requiring all kids to have phones, you can't take YOUR kid's phone away, but ENOUGH PARENTS TOGETHER can demand it.
Better yet, those of us who live in functioning democracies should demand that the law treat social media like the harmful substance that it is. We didn't stomp out teen smoking overnight (or ever), but the law and society don't look kindly on adults selling cigarettes to children, anymore.
Unfortunately, as Freya implies (and you seem to confirm), we are stuck with old ideas about left-vs-right, and petty squabbles over exactly how we teach gender ideology are masking our ability to see the very real harm being done to ALL our kids.
You blame men for the results of feminism. Try again. porn, prostitution, etc, will always exist. But before feminism, they were frowned upon by society and deemed unacceptable. Feminists demanded sexual liberation. This only benefited men that were "thirsty and porn-addicted". They also pushed for contraceptives and abortion on demand, meaning that consequence free casual sex became the norm. This didn't used to be a problem because society didn't let it be a problem until WOMEN started to complain and bemoan that they couldn't be men.
We don't complain that you point out "thirsty and porn-addicted" men. we complain that you ignore the cause of it being normalized in society. Its not because of men, but because women demanded the right to be anything they wanted, and a whole lot of them have decided to be whores.
End abortion on demand. End the normalization of pornography by telling women that its not acceptable to be a whore. End consequence free sex. WOMEN control these things by their choices. They demanded them. they also demanded no-fault divorce, destroying families.
So, go ahead, try and force men to stop being so 'thristy and porn-addicted" and they'll look at the fact that women are actively choosing that life style, and they'll nod along with you and then go watch some woman flaunt it all on camera. the 6' well built rich guys on dating apps will continue to have all the sex with no risk of responsibility, and women will keep blaming men for their decision to act like objects.
The fact is, there will ALWAYS be a market for this stuff. There has been since the dawn of society. The key is to shame those who partake and those who provide, otherwise, you're not fixing the problem, you're just making it worse.
Lol, prostitution will ALWAYS exist? Why's that? Because it's just SO frowned upon? Is that it? That's what happened when men used to be so, so nice to women?
You literally know nothing about history. As if women weren't forced into prostitution at higher numbers than can even compare to today, from the Roman Empire to Victorian England, back in the good ol' days of chivalry when wife-beating and marrying 11 year old girls was legal. Like "whore" is the worst insult for a woman, meanwhile who's using these women? Who traffics and abuses these women? Are men insulted for that? With what term?
MEN ARE THE PROBLEM. This is a supply side problem. How many fucking times do I need to say that? They're the ones who need to get shamed. But males cannot feel shame.
You don't know anything, about history, the law, or basic logic. It's not my job to teach stupid, delusional dolts online. Be quiet and stop making a fool of yourself.
Those gosh darn feminisms just should have kept tolerating legal wife-beating, child marriage, women kept out of the best schools and jobs--now THOSE were the days, when men were so great and felt shame at spreading syphilis around! You moron.
I love whores . . . they never lie to you about what they are . . . If you cannot be honest about the sex, what can you be honest about?
When Arnold Schnitzel-wagger got caught impregnating his voluptuous maid, the tsunami of faux moral outrage swept across television and computer screens from people who have the slenderest claim to any semblance of fidelity or ethics of any kind.
Arnold couldn't admit he likes fat girls and Maria couldn't admit she was too anemic to get the job done anymore . . . After all, marrying into the Katholic Kennedy Klan should come with special social privileges, should it not?
Whatever happened to 'make love not war' or 'free love, baby'?
Did Arnie just miss the flight of the Lolita Express that weekend, or did Bill Clinton and Bill Gates have the flights booked that month?
We can't afford healthcare for American children because we need to keep bombing everybody else's for the love of Jesus and Israel . . . We must outlaw abortion because Jesus needs more babies for his war machine.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies, and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master, the one who drowned the world and demanded a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress be stoned to death . . .
Like the song says, 'Heaven is Just a Sin Away'.
Monogamy is a hackneyed tenet of religion . . . an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to attach vicarious liabilities in the secular law, to control monarchial successions, as well as to establish ecclesiastic control over white female procreativity and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
@Kat Unless a man rapes a woman, don't the women have the last say? Well what about saying NO? Or is the MAN'S fault she says yes and opens her legs or mouth for the end result? I'll be damn if women would say NO, that would be the end of the conversation. But it doesn't work like that does it? So really Kat, who's the moron?
Well, someone seems to be using Marx _and_ God to instill morals and good behaviours in people… I'm not sure it will succeed, as the genie really is out of the bottle. There needs to be many "puriteens" to turn away from the free choices in a democratic society. And money is quite a useful thing, after all.
Everyone would rather scream about women who point out that male stupidity is the problem and say that we ackshually create the issue by "creating division" because BoTh SiDeS!
If we stopped pointing it out, male stupidity would still be a problem. If males stopped, then there would be nothing to point out and the problem would actually stop. That's the difference.
Most people do not want to honestly acknowledge male stupidity, violence, and lack of respect for women. It's easier to pretend it's BoTh SiDeS or cry about how feminists do it too. It's pathetic.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
One-sided solutions are no solutions. You can cry about "male stupidity" all day long. The culture we live in is not a one-sided issue. Or you might think it is, if you are radical feminist.
Lol I know. NOT ALL MEN! Really? Because it's more than enough men, and yet all women have a story to tell--where did all those men come from? Nobody gave birth to them, nobody knows them, nobody is friends with them.
All men do benefit from the low standards because they don't have to do much to be considered "one of the good ones." The bar for their behavior is on the floor, so all men do benefit.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
"If people would only..." could break this loop in multiple places, sure. Men/boys are not just going to stop being interested in sexual content any more than women/girls are going to stop seeking the likes/comments/views that come from posting said content. (And yes, women are also interested in sexualized content and men are also interested in likes, I'm just addressing the problem outlined in the article).
The problem is that the platforms/phones have a direct line to our brains. Expecting human nature on the scale of billions to just change is not a realistic answer. Demanding big tech to grow a sense of social responsibility is.
I'm talking about male nature, not human nature. If men weren't so thirsty and weak, none of this would be happening. It's a demand problem, not a supply problem. If men stopped seeking for this and paying for it, it would disappear. If women stopped voluntarily doing it, human trafficking gangs would form in order to force them to do it in order to make money. That's what happens with prostitution.
If humans stopped being humans, many problems would disappear. But that just isn't realistic, is it? It is a very narrow and sophomoric attitude towards a problem that WOMEN helped create by allowing themselves to objectified in order to gain power, influence and of course, money. It is the oldest game there is; women have been using their sexuality to gain power over men for as long as civilization has existed. The Pill promised 'consequence free sex', the ability to have sex like a man; it delivered what we have today - Peter Pan men who never grow up and have no worries about responsibilities should they knock a girl up. But we also have the erosion of every girl's self-esteem and self-worth as truly notable accomplishments have been replaced by looks and sexualization, a plague like spread of STDs, many now antibiotic resistant, record teen suicide, and millions and millions of dead babies. If women want to be respected and cherished, then they need to start treating their own sexuality and the act of sex not as a commodity, but as something much more important and yes, even sacred. I cannot believe you think men are solely the problem when songs like WAP are recorded by women. I have a husband and three sons; your broad brush is wildly inappropriate and smacks of toxic feminism.
Oh boy. Lots of boymom energy here. Nothing works on that.
Start a Substack entitled "Boys" and try to keep them from becoming porn addicts by age 11. Why are you on a Substack entitled "Girls" then?
Men commodified and pay for sexuality, not women. Men are the ones who pay, so they are problem. If women stopped it voluntarily, trafficking gangs would kidnap and force women to do it--this happens with prostitution regularly. If men stopped paying, the whole problem would stop. Crying about rap songs like WAP won't change that.
About prostitution… The "Swedish model" is not a happy-for-all remedy, as you might know. "Thirsty and weak" men seem to be the problem all the time, with male perpetrators and female victims. Aren't we over such a simplifying world view now? How about give people individual agency for once? We live in a world with an unequal distribution of wealth. I do think human trafficking is a larger issue outside of prostitution than you give credit for. And banning whole markets because some people get hurt, instead of applying the alread extant laws…
Yep, it's always the guys fault. It's the guy fault when the girl he's dating pulls down his zipper and...well fill in the blank and he likes what happened and wants to come back for more. Was the guy being treated like garbage in that respect? Or is it just part of the mating ritual leading up to marriage and multiple children?
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
I have spent the last 47 years protecting myself against men. I modify my dress and behavior so I won't be assaulted. I try to be invisible. But we need to change girls access to the internet? Not change how boys are raised to think they qre entitled to easy access to women's bodies? Fuck right off!!! They come so close to addressing the issue and FAIL miserably
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
It would indeed solve the problem, if there were a magic wand that could make this happen.
But there is no magic wand. Men will not stop being dicks no matter how politely you ask them. I'm afraid any effective solutions are going to have to be somewhat top-down and authoritarian. That comes at a cost, but a cost to believe society should be willing to pay.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
Try it, see if it works, Casey. Schools are run by school boards and teacher unions, and teachers & administrators LOVE LOVE LOVE phones and social media and do it themselves.
Look online for the videos (taken by students) of their highly paid teachers sitting there glassy-eyed, while on their OWN phones viewing social media. This is real.
You cannot positively influence children, if you do the bad behaviors you want them NOT TO DO. Adults watch social media. Adults live by "clicks, likes and views".
Also: we did decrease teen smoking, but not stamp it out. A lot of young people in my extended family smoke! the BOOMERS all quit or never started... GenX too. Not teens! BTW: it was illegal to buy cigarettes under 21 when I was a teen, but a lot of kids at my high school still smoked. Don't ask me how.
I also agree that schools today are fixated HARD on gender ideology vs. teaching kids things like being skeptical of social media and getting addicted to phones. In fact, TikTok was and is a primary force in "selling" gender ideology to children... and it comes from CHINA (which forbids this kind of teen influencing to their own children!).
In CHINA... TikToks are all about solving math problems and grammar, and being smart in school... positive social values. But in the US, and Europe, they sell dreck and sleaze to OUR children.
this is so true! Adults became more addicted to Facebook early on in order to gather more "friends" and "likes". I'm in the middle of the Boomer gen and I was on early Facebook. When I decided to leave and obliterate my social media account, Facebook sold my personal info to the dark web. Before I left however, there were women I graduated with who were so addicted to the "friends" (people she had NO IDEA who they were) in the thousands and posting the same provocative photos time and time again to get the "likes" and comments her addiction required. She was a shell of the person I thought I used to know by the time I got off social media. Her addiction and anxiety, bullying defensiveness is crying out for some mental health intervention. Too many have submitted themselves to the crack of social media and make excuses to continue. So, YES - adults need to check their own social media behaviors before they think they can EVER influence positive values in their kids, or even spend quality time engaging with THEM instead of their phones. This cannot turn around unless and until the adults become the adults in the room and work on changing and building their own balanced and healthy values, then the cultural values of what they will accept and engage in - or not.
Fakebook disgusts me with the mental gymnastics it subjects it's adherents too. I visit once or twice a week and even with 4500 "friends" find that the information I post is either shadow banned or ignored because so many that live in the bubble of security that they think they are in can't stand it when someone comes along with the needle of reality ready to pop that bubble they surround themselves with. I find that my stack is growing slowly mainly because what I write about most likely bores most people and yet the subjects I delve into are important subjects. Want to know WHY inflation is causing havoc and what started it all? Read "Blood Running In The Streets....." You'll learn more in a half hour of reading than you did in your whole life.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
China raises up drones for their drone system. Individualism is frowned upon. Be a good boot licker and you'll fit right in with Chinese society. Otherwise they will weld your door shut and let you starve to death. I just love it when anyone praises CHINA.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
Postman’s Pledge is collective action encouraging parents to abstain from giving their kids smart phones until 8th Grade. We need the critical mass -waituntil8th.org
I have a novel idea...HOMESCHOOL THEM. Now I realize that taking responsibility for your own children's education may be a daunting task for some of you, but in reality IT ISN'T. There are lots of homeschool programs available to teach from that will also teach you. The SACRIFICE? Yes, there is. In my case we gave up over ONE MILLION in salary so that my wife who was an RN could stay home and homeschool her four sons over a 20 year period.. Who btw were also home birthed and had never received a single vaccine up to the day my second youngest influenced by his live in cougar sex doll convinced him to vaccinate. And now he suffers from about five side effects. Mostly mental. Anyhow, the sacrifice was worth it and we just don't have new cars or a new house. We feel it was WORTH IT. Most of you won't and then you'll complain because the 10th plank communist manifesto school you sent your children to converted them into good communists.
Well why did you stop there? If you don't like all the vaccines and cougar sex dolls (ie the realization that the world consists of other people) you should have just pulled out of society entirely and lived like swiss family robinson.
We make up our institutions and can make them better if enough people try.
Or people like you can make them worse. Which is the problem. You keep on supporting the system that is totally against reason, logic and common sense, and I'll do what I can to wake up the other lions. Sheep, like yourself, are of my least concern.
am i naive for thinking the obvious answer is to raise girls with an open, communicative dynamic where you honestly discuss these aspects and dangers of social media with them from an early age? just taking away their phone and banning them from social media will make them want it more. but having real conversations with them about the realities of how it harms people is a place to start. my therapist has two young daughters and tells me how she’s very honest with them about why she won’t let them have access to social media or a smartphone -- because as their parent she is responsible for keeping them safe and if she let them have instagram or tiktok, she’d be harming them. they talk about it very openly together and it seems to be working for her and her kids so far
Answer the questions. Whether or not you are a successful parent matters. What trauma you may have lived through matters. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU SO THAT YOU ARE SO BROKEN????
Well, sure and I might add "boys too". And it should be discussed in schools, churches, etc.
The problem is... these things are alluring, and no matter how much you tell kids "don't do this"... well, we all know it worked out for drugs... smoking... drinking... sex! and other risky behaviors.
You can be very honest with kids, but frankly when it is a 45 yr old parent telling a 15 yr old teenager "don't do drugs or drink! and stay off social media!" -- you sound like an old fuddy-duddy.
You said don't ban stuff, but then your example of your therapist says SHE DID BAN social media and smartphones... though it is very different to refuse to give a smartphone to a 9 year old vs. a 15 year old.
Again: SHE can ban this, right up to 18. But kids use their friend's phones, at school and otherwise. They can use social media on school or library computers. They can get around most parent controls very easily, unless the parent is high level computer security expert! the hacks are right online.
Does she deny them use of a computer? of search engines? because you would almost have to keep your kid totally computer illiterate to manage this.
It is not unlike trying to educate kids about other things. If you don't want your child to abuse alcohol... do you forbid it? not allow it in the home? not drink yourself? or do you exhibit MODERATION in consumption, by doing things like having a single glass of wine with dinner?
Telling kids not to have sex... "purity balls" and that kind of thing, abstinence education... have failed on a colossal level for decades. Sometimes they result in the opposite of what parents intend: for example, kids who are pushed into purity balls, purity rings, purity pledges... stay technical virgins, but instead engage in anal and oral sex, believe "that isn't real sex and I am still a virgin". That cannot be what parents intended!
This is why I say "the genie is out of the bottle". The best I can do is to model good behavior and tell my grandkids (*my kids are adults with families now!) about the RISKS of social media, Tiktok, Instagram... that they are not "real"... that filters disguise people's true appearances... that they should not believe everything they see, because people lie or try to manipulate viewers. To turn them into educated, sophisticated consumers of social media, but I don't think it will ever go away.
NOTE: I had some friends raised strictly -- Catholic or Mormon -- no alcohol, no smoking, abstinence, etc. -- they hit college at 18 and went WILD because they never learned internal self-control.
My parents were much more balanced. They drank very moderately in the home, and offered us (very small) amounts of wine or beer starting at about 15 (under adult supervision). Not at teen parties, at family holiday meals. They had high expectations for us, but never forbade stuff. They did tell us that "if we had a baby out of wedlock, they would not help us or pay for any of it" because they already had THEIR family and wouldn't raise our kids for us!
The result: zero drinking problems, zero drug problems, zero out of wedlock pregnancies. Now, this was decades before social media, I admit. But I am talking about "banning things you disapprove of" vs. "holding kids to high standards... explaining your values... re-enforcing your values".
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
I grew up in the 90s, and my mom and grandmothers were just quietly, but lethally dismissive of women who spent a lot of time on their appearance. If I saw a celebrity magazine at the grocery store, they would say, "Oh, those are magazines aren't for people like us. People like us read magazines about the news." Spending lots of money on clothes and makeup was considered wasteful, and they always pointed out (without malice) people we knew who overspent and got themselves into trouble.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
I appreciate your perspective here but I think the attitude of “it is what it is” and assuming they will find a way breeds apathy. I think we have to make the conscious choice to push back by being the parents who say no. I’m not so naive that I believe that doing so will fully protect my daughters but I do think it will give them a basic healthy foundation to build upon and a home base to come back to. I also think that in saying no, it gives other parents permission to say no as well. We have to choose to be that example or nothing will change for the better.
I really enjoy what you say here about counterbalance too though. This is lacking immensely and I think the root of the problem that is that lack is the technology. It’s like a cycle of unhealthy anti-social isolation, and it builds upon itself-another reason to say no! The concept of counterbalance is one I would love to delve into further, I think it is one of the factors that absolutely contributes to that life experience and resiliency that Freya accurately observes today’s girls are lacking.
Definitely a sane and reasonable argument. Women have controlled the culture for 20 years at this point. They aren’t giving themselves eating disorders for men. It’s social pressure to conform. This is well-established. Slut-shaming and other appearance based pressure is girl to girl.
Women have not controlled culture for 20 years. Men control all pornography websites, including PornHub, as well as every major social media site and dating app (except for Bumble). Males are the vast majority of dating app users (76% on Tinder, the most popular one), pornography website users, and OnlyFans (over 90% of purchases made there are by men).
Men are the problem and they are the source of the issue.
Women are the ones eagerly deconstructing the “patriarchy” and celebrating posting pictures of their holes as empowering.
Men are increasingly on the outside of society which is why they resort to virtual love and intimacy. How can it be that men outnumber women 3:1 on dating apps? What are the women doing? Going celibate?
Either way, you need to do some personal reflection; you are all over this thread denying agency to women and blaming men for women’s behavior. Not a sign of someone with good mental health.
Are you actively trying to chemically castrate a half of the population? We know that testosterone will influence one's prioritising sex. One sex have gamete release once a month, the other in every ejaculation. That cannot be entirely unimportant. You trying to outlaw the whole sex work industry, because of who knows why, won't solve a thing.
Kat, I've seen you spew hatred towards men on many sites. I mean this sincerely, get help for that hatred and resentment of men. Your life will be better.
Sigh. Nobody hates you. You're not that important. This is the truth and it sounds like hatred to males because that's what you're filled with.
What do you think this comment section is for? What is substack for? What is the purpose of communicating here? This is the point.
I didn't ask for your advice, and you can spare me the concern trolling. Go talk to the guys jerking off to Andrew Tate videos on TikTok. They're the problem.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
Kat, you won't want want hear this, but you are the alt-right's straw-man version of a feminist. Everyone who has ever wanted to dismantle feminism, and roll back the hard-won battles for women's equality, has painted the feminist movement as angry, hateful, and more interested in driving wedges between people than in working together to find solutions that benefit everyone. And I'm afraid that's also you.
If you won't calm down for your own sake, please do it for the sake of other women whom you are unintentionally undermining with this behaviour.
Fuck you and your Jewish god . . . The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
It's not 2016. Nobody gives a fuck about the alt right, so your comment is worthless.
And yeah, a random TERF on Substack is the problem, I guess that's how the Supreme Court dismantled Roe v. Wade and mentally ill male trannies get to play women's sports and end up in women's prisons. They're not driving any wedges, it's me and my comments.
I didn't ask for your advice, so keep your concern trolling to yourself. I'm not undermining anything. Women have to file lawsuits to keep men out of girls' bathrooms. Go talk to those men about finding solutions.
In a more perfect world, for the benefit of blue dresses and laundry stains all over America, former U.S. President William Jefferson Clinton would be now making television commercials for Spray 'n Wash®, or as the late Rush Limbaugh so cleverly positioned the advertisement’s timing on his radio program, Spot Shot®.
Whatever happened to Don’t ask, don’t tell? By the way, remember who Bill Clinton put on the United States Supreme Court? She is still kvetching from the grave with the overturning of Roe v. Wade . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/just-shout-it-out
We must outlaw abortion, because Jesus Needs More Babies for His War Machine, not because abortion is a ritual murder performed upon the altar of vanity before an idol of conceit . . . We can’t afford healthcare for American children because we need to keep bombing everyone else’s for the love of Jesus and Israel . . .
There is no “free market,” there never has been . . . it is Jewish Mammonism . . . Every year the USA gives away an $8,000.00 health insurance deductible for every natural born U.S. man, woman, and child, just to Israel alone . . . Israel was just given $20 billion . . . It would cost $20 billion to build apartments for every homeless person in America to live in until they died, and the traitors in Washington D.C. sent ten times that to the cross-dressing gay satanist Israeli operative Volodymyr Zelensky in Ukraine . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
The solution is not just to ban social media. How lazy is that! As you say, there are 1 million other ways for girls to see it and they’re surrounded by people who watch it incessantly. What you need to do is to offer alternatives. Other things to do than sit on your phone, and scroll through this nonsense. Engage! Instilling in them the values of cherishing and protecting their body and themselves.
Exactly... ban it, and you make it "forbidden fruit". What you want, are kids who are skeptical of social media and aware of how it can influence your behavior or your thoughts...
Emphasize how fake it is... how women pose in certain ways, use filters to look unrealistically "perfect" or "skinny"... that just because someone makes a CLAIM on social media or advertising, does not mean it is a fact...that people exaggerate or act weird, crazy, arrogant, etc. to get clicks & views and not because they literally believe the things they say. That a lot of it is "bravado" or trying to look cool and that nobody is like that in real life.
Also, as you say... you need to do OTHER THINGS in life.... hobbies, music, art, religion, FRIENDS (real, not digital ones)... to experience the outdoors, go for walks, run, play sports... be in nature... have time to BE QUIET and just think or listen to the birds or smell the flowers.
One of the biggest though: you cannot tell your kids to DO THESE THINGS... if you yourself sit on your phone every spare moment... pull it out while waiting in lines... at meals... in restaurants... while driving (yeah, even bluetooth)... that you cannot bear even a moment of boredom or constantly wanting to see if "something more interesting might be going on".
If YOU are never there in the moment... never take time to go for walks or play with the dog... never do sports or music or art... cannot even watch a movie without checking your phone... no matter WHAT YOU SAY VERBALLY TO YOUR KIDS... they will take all their clues from your BEHAVIOR.
The most phone-addicted kids... have phone-addicted parents.
Still out the safety app on the phone before you even give it to them. Yes I know they can get around some things but do a spot check. Parents have said to me, but he/she won’t let me see the phone. You own the phone. Not the kid.
You can try, but... most kids know you can find videos online about how to hack ANY parental controls. Good luck.
Their friends all have phones. There are computers at the library and at every school that access the internet and all the sites like TikTok and Instagram.
You can buy a burner phone for $10 or so, and pay for minutes with a phone card. I guess you could never give your kid any money but... most kids have access to allowances and birthday money.
If I really wanted to do this... I'd keep my parent-provided phone clean and keep a 2nd phone for TikTok and other sites. Kids are clever.
You cannot outfox them. So the only way to really TEACH THEM is to be an EXAMPLE... do you sit on your phone all day, ignoring them? do you care more about social media than being "present"? do you all go out to eat, then sit on your phones and not make conversation? DO AS I SAY BUT NOT AS I DO is a classic losing parental strategy!!!
I was able to do both. Kids didn't have a smartphone til 18. I didn't own one either till then. And I presented the research on screens and porn and brain dev. Shared a family computer till the younger was 15. It's all possible. We're a tech family. Husband and I both software engineers, elder son a physicist, younger son actually a video game developer who understands what's at stake
Love your comment - this is a "fun" problem, meaning hard to understand and hard to address.
Our children's schools (grades 6 and up) require the use of an iPad. While they had prior experience from devices we gave them, as soon as we tried to crack down - they might surf rather than work - they'd find workarounds. They'd use "borrowed phones," install VPN on the school device or work out other hacks. I even tried to install home-wide restrictions, which crippled our home network for everything, including the useful stuff we needed. We found the only effective control was restricting the hours to access the network. Even restricting access was a last resort and it wasn't particularly helpful. None of this does any good when they are at school with full access to Wi-Fi.
We are social creatures. Social activities, even problematic ones, are necessities. To help give a little balance in life we encouraged our children to take up sports, volunteer, work, and participate in other activities. We also spent a lot of time making sure that they completed their schoolwork. This often means being right there and monitoring to make sure that they complete assignments. Schools do provide ways to monitor, which partially makes up for the loss of seeing a completed assignment on paper, but the only really effective means to keep kids focused on activities more constructive than social media is to be present and curious. Also, we found that even the teachers aren't always on top of students and their assignments, until it's too late to do any good that is. They can be lax and that is not great when assignments are late. Often our kids would pepper us with - no one else's parents are so up in arms about missing assignments.
Eventually, every one of our children figured out that they needed to limit their time on the apps to reach the goals they cared about. As a long-time computer-literate couple, we found the explosion of social media frustrating. As a culture, we are still sorting our way through.
I want to be hopeful. One thing that we humans are really good at, is copying each other. Our portable computers allow us to do that really well. This is new and we'll find our way through it eventually.
Good point Lola, and fundamental. We are lacking the counterbalancing IRL (In Real Life) activities we had as children, which were able to keep porn at bay (even in its limited form at the time).
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
Okay I’ve thought abt this a lot!! As a gen z adult who’s grown up with phones but has been shielded from the worst benefits…I will not be giving my kids access to a smartphone until they’re 14 and no access to social media until they are 16. That was the timeline for me. If I have a son, they won’t be allowed violent video games unless it’s an explicit activity that’s regulated with a known friend. But this is hard, and it requires collective action of parents rallying together committing to this plan. It requires demands for schools to ween off of phone uses at early ages, developing a village where our kids are put back out into the real world to play and do team sports and engage in the arts. It requires de-digitized learning that makes AI outsourcing difficult. We have to return to the basics.
Well... for starters, tell the school “no, my child will not be using a phone for these things.” They work for you (or should). Don’t be afraid to be a wave-maker or the “problem parent” with such an important thing. They managed without devices until the last ten years or so--they can go back to doing so again. And if enough parents make enough waves, they’ll stop.
As for kids, tell them WHY you’re doing things. Explain to them the detriments. Sympathize that maybe it doesn’t sound fun now, but it’s for their good. I’ve explained to my ten year old and seven year old why they won’t be allowed social media until they’re adults. Install safety software on your wifi (we have a router that monitors websites and device usage) to protect them when they use computers and tablets.
My own kids watch YouTube, play videogames, etc, but I monitor them while they do it. They are not allowed to use devices in their room. They also have screen times limits and devices automatically shut down when those limits are up. Wifi turns off at a certain time every night. Talk to your kids about internet safety and explain WHY.
Also, put your money where your mouth is and get off your own social media, or drastically cut down your usage. I have been weaning myself off social media use this year. I rarely use it around my kids and now it’s only a couple of times a week for a few minutes, usually just to check for something in a group.
It’s a tough road, and might even be tougher if you have older kids already accustomed to social media usage, but it’s important to build trust and establish boundaries with kids, especially in regards to such vital issues.
1. You can try. Good luck. Teachers are VERY powerful with the richest union in the US, who backs them 100% and doesn't care about parents -- indeed, today they see parents as "the enemy" (Mega MAGA) if you don't quietly kowtow to them.
2. Sure people managed without phones, but they are TOTALLY addicted now. You realize that Apple is the first TRILLION DOLLAR corporation and it ain't because they make Ear Buds or MacBooks.
3. Some social changes are vast and enormous, and none in our lifetimes has been greater than smartphones -- putting a tiny computer in your hand that can both make phone calls, text and surf the internet. AND EVERYONE HAS THEM! you cannot get by without one. I saw a documentary on YAK HERDERS in the remotest part of Mongolia... guess what one of their big challeges is? getting a strong enough signal for THEIR SMARTPHONES. They all have one. YAK HERDERS IN MONGOLIA!
4. Yeah, and tell your kids to brush & floss twice a day, never eat white sugar and do 100 sit-ups. And save their allowance for college tuition. Call back and tell us how it turns out.
5. Not only can kids get around almost ALL phone security... there are tutorial videos ONLINE and your kids can find this at school or on his friend's phones.
6. They won't watch social media AT HOME with you hovering over their shoulders....they will do it when you are not at home, at the library, at school, at their friend's homes. Dude, the schools will TRANSITION your child to another SEX without telling you! put them on birth control without telling you! you think they care about PHONE RESTRICTIONS?
7. How old are your kids? because what you describe might work at 7 or 8... but every year it will work less and less. It won't work for teenagers. They will find a way around it... you can buy a burner phone for about $10. Minute cards for $10-$100. Almost all teens have access to that much money or will find a way to get it. Maybe a way you don't like very much.
8. SOME control is responsible. Too MUCH control becomes heavy-handed and causes rebellion. The kids I grew up with (LONG before smartphones) who had strict, often Catholic parents... couldn't date, no parties, constant supervision... when they left home at 18, went absolutely bonkers because it was like busting out of prison. They had never learned INNER SELF CONTROL.
9. What exactly are you accusing ME of? I'm an adult over 60, retired with grandchildren. I am not on most social media... I have accounts, but rarely use Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, etc. I keep the accounts because it is the only way I get to see photos of family, cousins, grandkids, etc. I never post anything myself.
10. You are not "building trust with your kids" by micromanaging them, and watching them the whole while they are playing video games or on YouTube. Especially if they are teenagers. They know what you are doing and why, and it isn't teaching INNER SELF CONTROL or discipline or high standards and values. it is teaching them that you are a bully and afraid of social media, without understanding WHY you have concerns.
I have confidence I’m raising my kids with correct values and teaching them those values without being legalistic about it. As with most discussions about parenthood on the internet, I see I made a mistake in getting involved, lol.
You seem to be absolutely insisting on seeing everything in the world and reading every single thing anyone says to you in the worst possible light. I’m sorry you feel like the situation is so hopeless. Hopefully you can enjoy the rest of the Christmas season.
This is something I was complaining about to my husband. Not just the 'pornification' of our culture, but sex being shoved down our throats constantly. I was on FB Marketplace looking for a desk, and one of the sponsored ads was for a "sex stone" (essentially a solid lube bar). I'm actually not oppossed to the product, and if id been on a sex-centered website, may consider trying it. But why, in the company's array of offerings, did they have to choose that one to showcase on FB? Why is it always the sexual item? I don't think it's prudish to say "I'd like to shop for a used desk without having my genitals pandered to, thanks."
Algorithms also push things onto people that theyve never looked up. Kids are looking at cartoon memes on instagram and the next thing they scroll past is an AI-hentai looking ad. Algorithms target people its not purely based on your previous search history
if I search for "sex toys" and nothing else about this realm it will still show me anything sex related. is this my fault? is this normal? let's stop taking the big social media platforms side and start calling them out. performance marketing is rigged. AI recommendations also rigged. we are constantly putting the blame on users but Zuckerberg is stacking up his money and doing jiujitsu. come on.
I’m definitely in agreement with this post and will also say, we shouldn’t let our sons near social media either. It’s doing nothing for them in terms of learning to respect and appreciate women.
Before I get too far into my response, I want to be upfront and let you know I am a Christian, speaking from a Christian perspective. Not saying I’m speaking for all Christians, just letting you know where my points are coming from. Just take that into account for whatever it’s worth to you.
Your question “why do males have to learn to respect and appreciate women?” and answer because they don’t innately is… well, I don’t know what it is or what to do with it. I’m no expert in what males or females do or don’t do innately. But I know there are there endless examples of good things people do which are not innate and must be learned. Proper table manners, how to dress well, how to use a toilet, how to write or whatever other good thing we may be think of. Maybe respect for others is something we need to learn? maybe it’s somewhat innate but must be nurtured. I’d think that’s probably more likely.
I think it’s very important for I be open and honest about the tragedies of bad male behavior. I also think we do ourselves and society as a whole a major disservice by writing males, boys, men off as stupid or destructive simply because they are biologically male.
I simply refuse to entertain the notion that my 5 month old son, or any man, myself included is innately stupid or destructive. Not saying you called my son stupid or anything like that. I’m not personally offended by what you said. I just don’t agree.
Now, I do believe what all Christians believe that all males and females are born with sin in their hearts and are in need of redemption, but I also believe that they can be redeemed. Toxic masculinity, or stupidity or any destruction caused by men is sin. Period. But that is not something exclusive to men.
I believe men who are redeemed and trying to live Holy lives can use their God-given masculine energy and tendencies to achieve things that are good, amazing, and productive for the rest of society. They can be as beneficial when good as they can be destructive when sinful and misguided, which unfortunately describes many men today. But by the grace of God, not all!
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
@Kat: wow, that's a heavy burden of anger you are carrying.
Respect and appreciation are EARNED, not demanded or given without cause. If you are waiting around for men to suddenly "respect & appreciate you" for no reason... you will have a very long wait.
Do all MEN get respect & appreciation? obviously not. You are thinking of the small subset of men who are powerful, wealthy, physically strong or hold some other kind of power or status. That is not "all men". It is SOME MEN.
Men have their own issues, their own fears and inadequacies and they have to compete in a very harsh world against OTHER MEN.
BTW: men suffer from violence from OTHER MEN, and yes, can be raped by other men... killed by other men... intimidated by other men and so on. And I don't just mean "gay men".
Neither gender has it "all over" the other. And women have largely dropped the ball on feminism, after tremendous gains in the 1960s-1970s....if you talk to younger millennial women today, the majority will insist "they are not feminists". We've let anti-feminist groups (RedPill etc.) brand "feminism" as something dirty or shameful, and NOT FOUGHT BACK.
So how do you fight back against pornification? it isn't going to be by banning it, and driving it underground. It isn't going to be by shaming men for having sexual desires. I believe it begins with educating young women and girls to have more self-respect, and to have higher aspirations than "easy money" or "the male gaze".
But don't kid yourself that PORN and PROSTITUTION are the oldest professions for a reason.
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
Yes. I hate allowing my son even to watch football or baseball games on tv because the commercials on public airwaves are so offensive anymore. The Macy’s thanksgiving parade was awful.
Great article! It often feels like there is very little space for women with generally progressive views to have space to express a more nuanced or modest relationship to sex. If you express that you wouldn’t feel comfortable posting a photo of yourself in a tiny bikini on insta or want to wait until you are in a more serious relationship to be sexual with someone, the response is that you hold “conservative” views. I feel like women should be allowed to decide what level of sexuality is comfortable to them without the binary judgement of culture war lines or feeling a pressure to conform (in either direction) to what is designated as appropriate beliefs for their social/political sphere.
So true. I think I was given that freedom in the 90s but girls today are not. It makes me so sad that we're regressing when it comes to female empowerment. And no, it's not the right to abortion that grants such power. It's the right to say no to anything that doesn't jell and walk away unscathed.
I should add: I know this is called "GIRLS" and so your focus is on girls & women, but... this also affects boys and young men. They too see what girls/women "like" or comment on... they are painfully aware that if they are short, homely, awkward, not muscular, not rich, etc. that the girls won't "like them" the way they do celebrities or the most popular guys in school.
They may express it in other ways, by going over to the RedPill movement, or declaring themselves "MG-TOW" or incels or men's rights advocates.
No, "we" are not. Unfuckable male losers are not my problem.
And this derailing constantly happens when anyone wants to speak about anything related to GIRLS--the title of this particular substack. The subject must be hijacked because males simply can't not be the center of attention. This is done by males or pickme females (usually boymoms).
I'm sick of it. Men are the origin of the problem.
Kat, if you continue like this you will get banned from the platform.
If a man called you "unfuckable" you would rightly be outraged by it. Nobody, man or woman, is defined by their sexual market value. Please treat others as you would like them to treat you.
I accept that men can treat women appallingly. I do not think the appropriate response is for women to do the same to men. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Lol, acting like girls and women are a fungible good that should be distributed to them even though they're ugly, fat, unfunny losers--yeah, we should focus on that instead of honestly speaking about male violence.
@Kat: I don't think the subject HERE is violence, though there is violence surrounding porn (and you cannot truly discuss porn without talking about the intersection of porn and prostitution).
I have spoken out many times about the RedPill movement, the Manosphere (so called) and how the adherents of these beliefs are low-status males who are as angry as you, but because yes... they think they should get access to women without EARNING that access by good behavior. I never said anywhere that such men (or any men) ARE ENTITLED TO WOMEN or entitled to sex. I don't believe that.
I do think that for every situation where a woman feels disrespected, disempowered, left out of society, rejected by their peers... you can easily find an analogous situation among men. Most men are NOT rich superstar athletes, millionaire movie stars, celebrities, body builders, "captains of industry" or other fantasies -- anymore than all women are fashion models or OnlyFans performers.
Is the subject HERE actually male VIOLENCE? I though it was PORN. Porn can depict violence, but not all or most of it. Sex, even degrading sex, is not necessarily violent. With a few exceptions, most of the women who perform in porn are adults and have consented to do so.
It's too simple to just say "it's men's own fault" anymore than to blame women. All people are capable of making bad choices or being angry, naive, entitled, ignorant, etc.
We don't solve this problem by hating on one another. We solve by working together to make this a better world for everyone.
Stop derailing every conversation about women or women's issues and forcing everyone to talk about how fucked up men are and how it's actually both sides because so many men are unfuckable losers.
What's the title of this substack? Why are you crying about the poor, sad menz as if they're the real victims? I don't care. Stop white knighting for male losers.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
You need Jesus. As a recovered sexually abused child, to me it is obvious. You can heal, I promise. Living without the hate and rage changes everything.
Ugh. As the mother of 3 (including 2 preteen boys, 12 and 10) I all of this disheartening. It seems like an impossible fight to keep your kid safe. It seems like I'm fighting against the school to keep my kids from having constant access to youtube. I am determined, though, to keep my kids phone and social media free for as long as possible.
I did it, my boys were 18 when they got a smartphone and I also went without one until then. They're 24&22 now, but never needed their phones for school work and we had a family computer until they were 16 that they did their work on. And they never need their phones for college, so I don't get why mother lower school would demand it. My eldest is in a PhD program and I just asked if he needs it for school and he was like, what the hell? Of course not.
Great post, it’s devastating and huge problem today. It’s pushed on us everywhere, especially online, horrible for people of all ages, but especially kids.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
It's all true what you say about "the pornification of everything" but there's another hugely important thing that hardly ever gets discussed in journalism about sex. Teenage sex experience has always been VERY DIFFERENT for pretty girls than for what used to be called 'plain' ones. And it's very different for confident cocky boys than it is for shy geeky ones. The social media stresses you talk about in this essay will doubtless have amplified these differences. I discuss all this here: https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/the-less-desired
I so despise what social media had become like for men, as well. Remember watching a Hamza video where he put it well: social media IS porn now.
It's well studied that men are way more visual when it comes to attraction. So you see shorts of women in scant, skin tight clothing at the gym, or doing sports, cosplay, whatever - essentially softcore porn. As a young adolescent male driven by hormones to seek sex, of course you give a "like" and so are served ever more of that.
Imagine how alluring this is: you can follow the accounts of all your favourite "models" and not only will you have daily content of this personal harem you've cheated steamed into your feed, you'll actually get recommendations on who else you might like!
I know people with dedicated porn Twitter accounts. They follow these girls and in conversation will call them "twitter hoes". They'll send their newest ass pics into our gaming group chat and I'm like, man, I don't want to see that right now.
Are you that far gone? It's so sad how social media can lead us astray and reinforce exactly the worst in us.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
I, think it is imperative to stop the glorification of sex for young girls who are barely clinging to an identity and show them a harmful alternative route. I can't imagine being young today being lured into the hellish landscape of social media. It nourishes the ideation of suicide as well as drug use to soothe the insecurity. It's madness and frightening.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
Kat, first off... you need therapy for that anger. Clearly you've been hurt by men in the past, but just saying "men are the problem" solves nothing.
The response of the pro-men side would be "WOMEN are the problem!" -- and I tell them what I just told you. The rage & anger & finger-pointing solve nothing.
To repeat what I said earlier: respect is something you earn... waiting around hoping the other party just "respects you because they SHOULD respect you" will be the longest wait of your life.
Just lecturing people has never worked! has it ever worked for YOU in your life? Screaming "men, you are the problem!" but meanwhile... a disturbing number of young WOMEN today think that it makes perfect sense to sell nude images of themselves on OnlyFans. Are THEY the problem? maybe the problem is ALL OF US and not just one gender.
You don't understand a single thing I'm saying. Men are the problem because the demand side is the problem. If they stopped, the problem would stop. If the women stopped, the problem wouldn't stop because gangs would resort to human trafficking to make money. That's what happens with prostitution. That's the difference.
Don't worry about my anger or give advice for therapy. You don't know me and will never meet me, and even if I was never born, everything I said is true.
And I disagree. There is reciprocity between both sides (I explain more in my earlier post.)
You have zero evidence that there are "pornography gangs" in the US or western world, that would kidnap women and force them to perform on camera for money.
There is SOME forced prostitution -- the sex slave industry -- but it is not the majority by far, and you are in denial that women do this consensually and voluntarily for the most part -- because they like the easy money.
Sorry, but you not speaking the truth. You are speaking out of some deep pain and emotional problems, and a weird hatred of the opposite sex... also an incredibly naive and unrealistic life view that if you rage enough ON THE INTERNET... 4 BILLION MEN will suddenly change their historical lifelong behavior and reign in their sex drive... for YOU, Kat Highsmith.
You are the female version of the RedPills, my dear... raging like crazy without a single useful or valid suggestion for change or even understanding. Change BEGINS with understanding, not with hysteria or anger.
You need therapy and you're speaking out of pain because you're desperate to excuse male behavior. You're the problem.
Prostitution is easy money, you say? Why is the money so easy? Who's choosing to pay, reducing women to commodities? If they didn't pay, the problem wouldn't exist. Men are the problem. Thanks for proving my point.
I'm not the female version of male rapists. I'm not the one running human trafficking gangs and telling men how to do it on TikTok, you sadsack. I'm literally only using words. There is no reciprocity and it's not both sides.
You're the one who needs therapy. Wake up. You won't get cool girl points for this. Pathetic.
I am not the one having a hissy fit because billions of people won't behave exactly the way I think they should, Kat.
I am not the one demonizing 50% of all human beings on earth. I am not raging with anger. So I am NOT THE ONE who needs therapy to deal with my anger.
I haven't excused anybody; I hold all of society to account for social problems and I said both men and women contribute to porn AND prostitution.
I also explained how in any transaction, there is a buyer AND A SELLER. You cannot have one without the other. And your response is "well men will just kidnap women" without a shred of evidence that this is happening (in porn).
You could also eliminate all porn if WOMEN simply agreed to forgo the easy money and "fame" by not appearing nude or in sex acts... right? it's a 2-way street. If there WAS NO PORN, no OnlyFans... the problem would disappear... right?
Except I presume you were alive before OnlyFans started in 2016 and it was obviously already a problem. In fact the BOOK "Pornified" by author Pamela Paul was published in 2005 (!!!) -- I read it back then -- Freya doesn't mention it, but uses the word which I believe is credited to Ms. Paul -- and 2005 is BEFORE iPhones were invented, BEFORE OnlyFans and that means there was relatively little porn one could access WITH A PHONE. (It existed on computers, of course and in print magazines, and on DVD movies.)
How did we get from "porn" to rape? is this about rape? are you a rape survivor, who sees your rapists face in every man consuming porn? Because surely you know -- logically -- that the vast majority of men are NOT rapists and the vast majority of men consuming PORN are not physically assaulting women.
BTW: calling ME names does nothing whatsoever to achieve your goal of a porn-free society. I am not sure why you identify ME as the problem. LOOK AT MY AVATAR, girl. I am a woman, probably old enough to be your MOM. I am not a man trying to justify my consumption of porn, and if you read ANY of my prior comments, you'd know I am against the pornification of modern society -- but I am also a realist who knows you won't make things better by whinging or pointing fingers.
There is nobody handing out "cool girl points", I assure you. I am talking realistically. What are you really asking for here, Kat? You think if you are angry, then 4 billion men will completely change their behavior? overnight? completely lose interest in looking at pictures of naked women?
You are like the "temperance" advocates of the early 1900s, who were POSITIVE if they banned alcohol... that every ill of society would disappear overnight. Instead, they created the modern criminal empires, the Mafia, the whole underground trafficking of a banned substance that went from "liquor" to (after it was legalized again in 1933) to drugs and prostitution. EPIC FAIL!
Demonstrate here what you really mean. HOW will you get billions of men to forgo wanting to view porn? specifics. Not just finger pointing. HOW?
Because if you have nothing to offer but your anger... which is blinding you to the totality of the problem (*i.e., that there is no situation without a buyer AND a seller)... yeah, you pretty much need therapy. And a lot of it.
It saddens me, that you feel this way. And that you are left with all this anger towards men. I wish, that it was that easy for all problematic and bad actors to just stop what they are doing.
Stop with the concern trolling, like I'm sure you're terribly worried about me.
Men are the problem. If they weren't so thirsty and weak, there wouldn't be pornography and camgirls all over the internet. They are the issue. This is demand-driven, not supply-driven.
If all camgirls left voluntarily, human traffickers would resort to kidnapping in order to keep making money. If men stopped watching, the entire market would end and there would be no problem. That's the difference.
I didn't state that I am worried about you. You seem to do just fine. I am sad about how angry you seem to be and how you place all your anger on men as a collective. As if all men are bad. That you statements saddens me, isn't a troll. I am tired of the culture war between men and women, and I am sad that it seems to have manifested itself in you, so that the first thing you believe about my comment is, that it is a troll.
Men have been waging this war for millenia. Call up the men in Afghanistan who throw acid at girls who want to go to school and tell them how you feel about the war. Men are the problem.
Well, I do not think, that they would listen to me. Do you believe that because there are bad men in one place doing bad things that men in all other places are bad too? Or am I misinterpreting your writing?
@Kat: I am not your friend, and my concern is only here on this thread. You don't seriously think random people on the internet "care about you", do you? even those who might agree wholeheartedly, do not give a rat's ass about you.
NO ONE GENDER OR SEX IS "THE PROBLEM". Blindered thinking like that has never solved one single problem in society.
Any situation between seller and buyer has the same dynamic. If only people didn't like getting high on drugs, there would be no drug problem! if only people didn't like getting drunk, there would be no alcoholism!
And a lot of male consumers of porn would indeed blame the supply... that it is a thirst trap. That the women on (say) OnlyFans KNOW how they can tease and manipulate men into giving them money.
Which comes first? the desire or the fulfillment of that desire? does the existence of (say) heroin make people inject heroin to get high? I don't do drugs and probably neither do you. But some people have a desire to get high. How do we deal with that as a society? just by screaming at them "you are terrible people"?
Surely you know that porn and prostitution existed thousands of years ago. They don't call it "the oldest profession" for no reason. Camgirls are incredibly recent... I think OnlyFans started in 2016! You don't think porn existed PRIOR to that?
Or do this thought exercise (I often offer this up to the RedPIll, who are as enraged as you at OnlyFans): why is there no porn for women?
I assure you that it is not because we are more self-controlled or morally pure. Or less interested in the pleasures of sex, or immune to good looking men.
(I'd like to add that porn and prostitution do not require "kidnapping". There are some cases of forced prostitution, but I've never seen "forced to be a camgirl" stories. So men have always wanted to look at porn, and there has always been a steady reliable stream of women willing to provide it -- for money.)
Does your theory -- just stop consuming the thing you want -- apply to drugs, alcohol, fast food, consumer spending or other bad behaviors? an dif not, why not?
I really appreciated this article, and I appreciate your work in general. I just wanted to chime in concerning your media selection, given that I have historically struggled with pornography addiction I am suspect that some of your audience may be in that same boat. I personally find photos such as the header image triggering in a way that I just wanted to make you aware of. For me, it was not a big deal because I am far along on my recovery journey. Others, I fear, may have found it more difficult to deal with.
I would like to emphasize that this is not a criticism, I really appreciate your voice in the barrens waste of the internet.
I love that you wrote and expressed all of this. And I hate that this happens 24/7 and is “normalized”. I’ve been on the side of getting sucked into OF and trying to sexualize myself. I had the insight to realize I didn’t want to do that and be known for that. It hurts me that young women who really haven’t had any guidance, besides from social media and society, think that this is how they can be recognized or heard or show their value. My biggest hope for this world is that this doesn’t get minimized and normalized but that we minimize this from further continuing.
Couldn’t agree with you more. I’m 40 years old and have felt the unbelievably strong pressure to pornify myself and compete with all the women on Instagram that are “a lot more attractive” than I am.
... Quote being from my boyfriend whom also simultaneously claimed that he “respects women”. No man that respects women would speak to a woman he claims to love that way. This behavior is a direct result of men being taught that porn is healthy and normal, and women prancing around like ponies in a sick side show is fun and harmless.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
As I pointed out in Freya’s first article in November, getting kids off social media is one thing, but then what alternative activities do they have, given the virtual disappearance of IRL (In Real Life) activities for them to fall back onto?
To see just how big the challenge is, consider how children grew up before the internet. Here are the chapters in my book, Life Before the Internet, devoted to home and family:
Ch 3 – Children learned to fend for themselves
Ch 4 – Children played with each other, not with phones
Ch 5 – Children played for hours outdoors
Ch 7 – Children had limited access to pornography
So even if we were somehow able to get them off social media and access to porn, we no longer have the IRL activities of childhood as outlined in Ch 3-5, due to a combination of over-protective parenting and the internet.
I think it is time to look at the bigger picture beyond just restricting teen access to social media (which is a given and should be done) and also addressing the IRL activities they need to fall back onto for this to stand a chance of succeeding.
Thanks Freya for your insights. You amplify the concerns of parents and young people everywhere. There is so much data coming out that shows how social media has wreaked havoc on an entire generation, and we need to inform, educate and support those dealing with the impacts on a personal/family level.
Of all the teenage girls I know, only one is not in therapy - the one whose parents refused to give her a smart phone until she turned 15, who is not permitted on social media and whose use of the phone is monitored electronically and when she is at home, is not allowed to have it in her bedroom. This girl experiences the ‘usual’ anxiety and social awkwardness that is the lot of teenagers, but she doesn’t derive her self worth from the opinion of strangers and doesn’t sexualise herself. I hope this continues for her - life will throw her enough challenges without social media destroying her sense of self and self worth.
The comments below, about an outright ban being both unworkable and potentially back-firing, ring true.
However, I don't think it's all doom either. I see many older women now, taking on the role of guiding or providing mentorship for girls transitioning to womanhood. Just the other day, I saw an invitation to an art therapy workshop for 10-13 year old girls, to celebrate menarche and the rite of passage from girl to woman. It was a beautifully crafted invitation, acknowledging the grief and potential confusion that goes with saying farewell to childhood and the joy, that goes with embracing womanhood conscsiously, guided through the wisdom of older women.
And let's face it, there is nothing in this world and I mean nothing, more powerful than a circle of women gathered consciously! In providing such safe spaces within our own communities for girls to express their fears, anxieties and dreams; a space to explore their own embodied experience of what it is to be a girl / woman - pleasure and pain; to imbibe the experience of older teens and women; who knows but that girls may begin to question themselves, whether they want to give their time, attention and energy to the unending and deadening drivel on-screen.
Freya, you are about 8 years too late on TikTok and 18 years too late for other social media... the genie is out of bottle and for a long time. You cannot just say "keep your daughter off social media" -- HOW WOULD YOU DO THIS? a smartphone is required in nearly every school for homework, uploading assignments, school calendars, notification of tests, etc. Kids know every trick to get around parent controls; most know more about the technology than their parents do!
Even if you took away your child's phone... their friends all have phones. You can BUY a burner phone for maybe $10 and get phone cards (minutes) at any convenience store. Libraries ALL have computers, schools ALL have computers.
I am not saying I like or approve of this, I think it is horrible. It's just that the time for outrage and controls was ... years & years ago. And we did nothing and here we are in 2023. Soon to be 2024.
BTW: even in Jurassic period when I grew up (70s), I was quite aware of things like my dad's Playboy magazines and sexualized images on TV and in films. I was keenly aware of what was desirable to MEN, and what things they utterly despised ... and what women had to do to get male attention ("the male gaze").
The biggest differences though were that A. it wasn't 24/7 or in the privacy of my own bedroom on a phone and B. there were COUNTERBALANCES in life... it was absent entirely at school... there were religious affiliations (Sunday school, church, synagogue. etc.) where more wholesome and respectful ideals were presented. I think that is painfully lacking today. Even schools, once places free of sexualization... are now hotbeds of gender/sex ideology and graphic sexual books in libraries.
I am up for ANYBODY'S ideas on how to change or even moderate this... ideas?
You got me. I will say healthy hobbies and team sports can be of help. Get girls motivated out of doors and not glued to a screen. Boost their egos and compliment their accomplishments. Don't be too busy to keep an eye out and participate in their lives. I know this sounds like fantasyland but we can try
Good ideas... I would agree that sports... art... music! are all very healthy outlets and away from computers and media as much as possible.
However, in my own grandkids I have noted they are/were far more interested in video gaming, than in being out of doors. ZERO interest in camping and it appears that Scouting (in a formal sense) is nearly dead today.
It's sad as I spent most of my youth outside playing sports in the street. But kids are not allowed to even walk to school anymore.
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Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
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The Old Testament reading is a command and should be taken in context - by comparison the Hadith (.. 'source of guidance and understanding of Islamic teachings' ) is an oft quoted Command re the advancement of Islam.
Two words: Collective action.
If schools are requiring all kids to have phones, you can't take YOUR kid's phone away, but ENOUGH PARENTS TOGETHER can demand it.
Better yet, those of us who live in functioning democracies should demand that the law treat social media like the harmful substance that it is. We didn't stomp out teen smoking overnight (or ever), but the law and society don't look kindly on adults selling cigarettes to children, anymore.
Unfortunately, as Freya implies (and you seem to confirm), we are stuck with old ideas about left-vs-right, and petty squabbles over exactly how we teach gender ideology are masking our ability to see the very real harm being done to ALL our kids.
Why don't men stop being so thirsty and porn-addicted, and stop treating women and girls like garbage?
That would solve the problem.
You blame men for the results of feminism. Try again. porn, prostitution, etc, will always exist. But before feminism, they were frowned upon by society and deemed unacceptable. Feminists demanded sexual liberation. This only benefited men that were "thirsty and porn-addicted". They also pushed for contraceptives and abortion on demand, meaning that consequence free casual sex became the norm. This didn't used to be a problem because society didn't let it be a problem until WOMEN started to complain and bemoan that they couldn't be men.
We don't complain that you point out "thirsty and porn-addicted" men. we complain that you ignore the cause of it being normalized in society. Its not because of men, but because women demanded the right to be anything they wanted, and a whole lot of them have decided to be whores.
End abortion on demand. End the normalization of pornography by telling women that its not acceptable to be a whore. End consequence free sex. WOMEN control these things by their choices. They demanded them. they also demanded no-fault divorce, destroying families.
So, go ahead, try and force men to stop being so 'thristy and porn-addicted" and they'll look at the fact that women are actively choosing that life style, and they'll nod along with you and then go watch some woman flaunt it all on camera. the 6' well built rich guys on dating apps will continue to have all the sex with no risk of responsibility, and women will keep blaming men for their decision to act like objects.
The fact is, there will ALWAYS be a market for this stuff. There has been since the dawn of society. The key is to shame those who partake and those who provide, otherwise, you're not fixing the problem, you're just making it worse.
Lol, prostitution will ALWAYS exist? Why's that? Because it's just SO frowned upon? Is that it? That's what happened when men used to be so, so nice to women?
You literally know nothing about history. As if women weren't forced into prostitution at higher numbers than can even compare to today, from the Roman Empire to Victorian England, back in the good ol' days of chivalry when wife-beating and marrying 11 year old girls was legal. Like "whore" is the worst insult for a woman, meanwhile who's using these women? Who traffics and abuses these women? Are men insulted for that? With what term?
MEN ARE THE PROBLEM. This is a supply side problem. How many fucking times do I need to say that? They're the ones who need to get shamed. But males cannot feel shame.
You don't know anything, about history, the law, or basic logic. It's not my job to teach stupid, delusional dolts online. Be quiet and stop making a fool of yourself.
Those gosh darn feminisms just should have kept tolerating legal wife-beating, child marriage, women kept out of the best schools and jobs--now THOSE were the days, when men were so great and felt shame at spreading syphilis around! You moron.
I love whores . . . they never lie to you about what they are . . . If you cannot be honest about the sex, what can you be honest about?
When Arnold Schnitzel-wagger got caught impregnating his voluptuous maid, the tsunami of faux moral outrage swept across television and computer screens from people who have the slenderest claim to any semblance of fidelity or ethics of any kind.
Arnold couldn't admit he likes fat girls and Maria couldn't admit she was too anemic to get the job done anymore . . . After all, marrying into the Katholic Kennedy Klan should come with special social privileges, should it not?
Whatever happened to 'make love not war' or 'free love, baby'?
Did Arnie just miss the flight of the Lolita Express that weekend, or did Bill Clinton and Bill Gates have the flights booked that month?
We can't afford healthcare for American children because we need to keep bombing everybody else's for the love of Jesus and Israel . . . We must outlaw abortion because Jesus needs more babies for his war machine.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies, and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master, the one who drowned the world and demanded a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress be stoned to death . . .
Like the song says, 'Heaven is Just a Sin Away'.
Monogamy is a hackneyed tenet of religion . . . an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to attach vicarious liabilities in the secular law, to control monarchial successions, as well as to establish ecclesiastic control over white female procreativity and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/heinrich-himmler-on-how-bolshevik-christianity-spreads-homosexuality-and-hatred-of-women
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Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
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https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/satanism-is-a-jewish-cult
@Kat Unless a man rapes a woman, don't the women have the last say? Well what about saying NO? Or is the MAN'S fault she says yes and opens her legs or mouth for the end result? I'll be damn if women would say NO, that would be the end of the conversation. But it doesn't work like that does it? So really Kat, who's the moron?
I'll tell it to you as well. Pointing finger at one part of the "problem" won't solve the problem. It takes two to tango.
If you give the MRA (and fellow traveler) trolls enough rope...
Well, someone seems to be using Marx _and_ God to instill morals and good behaviours in people… I'm not sure it will succeed, as the genie really is out of the bottle. There needs to be many "puriteens" to turn away from the free choices in a democratic society. And money is quite a useful thing, after all.
Excellent response based in pure REALITY.
Where did you get the reference for that Hadith?
I’ve searched your reference and I cannot find it anywhere. In fact, the book you have referenced cites a totally different Hadith.
Good job in citing false information!
You are the only other person who is addressing the root of the problem and yet WE are the problem because we are calling out men? It's disgusting.
Everyone would rather scream about women who point out that male stupidity is the problem and say that we ackshually create the issue by "creating division" because BoTh SiDeS!
If we stopped pointing it out, male stupidity would still be a problem. If males stopped, then there would be nothing to point out and the problem would actually stop. That's the difference.
Most people do not want to honestly acknowledge male stupidity, violence, and lack of respect for women. It's easier to pretend it's BoTh SiDeS or cry about how feminists do it too. It's pathetic.
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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Need to Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
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The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
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Heinrich Himmler on How Bolshevik Christianity Spreads Homosexuality and Hatred of Women . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/heinrich-himmler-on-how-bolshevik-christianity-spreads-homosexuality-and-hatred-of-women
One-sided solutions are no solutions. You can cry about "male stupidity" all day long. The culture we live in is not a one-sided issue. Or you might think it is, if you are radical feminist.
Lol I know. NOT ALL MEN! Really? Because it's more than enough men, and yet all women have a story to tell--where did all those men come from? Nobody gave birth to them, nobody knows them, nobody is friends with them.
All men do benefit from the low standards because they don't have to do much to be considered "one of the good ones." The bar for their behavior is on the floor, so all men do benefit.
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Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
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"If people would only..." could break this loop in multiple places, sure. Men/boys are not just going to stop being interested in sexual content any more than women/girls are going to stop seeking the likes/comments/views that come from posting said content. (And yes, women are also interested in sexualized content and men are also interested in likes, I'm just addressing the problem outlined in the article).
The problem is that the platforms/phones have a direct line to our brains. Expecting human nature on the scale of billions to just change is not a realistic answer. Demanding big tech to grow a sense of social responsibility is.
I'm talking about male nature, not human nature. If men weren't so thirsty and weak, none of this would be happening. It's a demand problem, not a supply problem. If men stopped seeking for this and paying for it, it would disappear. If women stopped voluntarily doing it, human trafficking gangs would form in order to force them to do it in order to make money. That's what happens with prostitution.
That's the difference. Men are the problem.
If humans stopped being humans, many problems would disappear. But that just isn't realistic, is it? It is a very narrow and sophomoric attitude towards a problem that WOMEN helped create by allowing themselves to objectified in order to gain power, influence and of course, money. It is the oldest game there is; women have been using their sexuality to gain power over men for as long as civilization has existed. The Pill promised 'consequence free sex', the ability to have sex like a man; it delivered what we have today - Peter Pan men who never grow up and have no worries about responsibilities should they knock a girl up. But we also have the erosion of every girl's self-esteem and self-worth as truly notable accomplishments have been replaced by looks and sexualization, a plague like spread of STDs, many now antibiotic resistant, record teen suicide, and millions and millions of dead babies. If women want to be respected and cherished, then they need to start treating their own sexuality and the act of sex not as a commodity, but as something much more important and yes, even sacred. I cannot believe you think men are solely the problem when songs like WAP are recorded by women. I have a husband and three sons; your broad brush is wildly inappropriate and smacks of toxic feminism.
Oh boy. Lots of boymom energy here. Nothing works on that.
Start a Substack entitled "Boys" and try to keep them from becoming porn addicts by age 11. Why are you on a Substack entitled "Girls" then?
Men commodified and pay for sexuality, not women. Men are the ones who pay, so they are problem. If women stopped it voluntarily, trafficking gangs would kidnap and force women to do it--this happens with prostitution regularly. If men stopped paying, the whole problem would stop. Crying about rap songs like WAP won't change that.
Deal with it. Men are the problem.
About prostitution… The "Swedish model" is not a happy-for-all remedy, as you might know. "Thirsty and weak" men seem to be the problem all the time, with male perpetrators and female victims. Aren't we over such a simplifying world view now? How about give people individual agency for once? We live in a world with an unequal distribution of wealth. I do think human trafficking is a larger issue outside of prostitution than you give credit for. And banning whole markets because some people get hurt, instead of applying the alread extant laws…
Yep, it's always the guys fault. It's the guy fault when the girl he's dating pulls down his zipper and...well fill in the blank and he likes what happened and wants to come back for more. Was the guy being treated like garbage in that respect? Or is it just part of the mating ritual leading up to marriage and multiple children?
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Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
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Bingo
I have spent the last 47 years protecting myself against men. I modify my dress and behavior so I won't be assaulted. I try to be invisible. But we need to change girls access to the internet? Not change how boys are raised to think they qre entitled to easy access to women's bodies? Fuck right off!!! They come so close to addressing the issue and FAIL miserably
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
It would indeed solve the problem, if there were a magic wand that could make this happen.
But there is no magic wand. Men will not stop being dicks no matter how politely you ask them. I'm afraid any effective solutions are going to have to be somewhat top-down and authoritarian. That comes at a cost, but a cost to believe society should be willing to pay.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
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Heinrich Himmler on How Bolshevik Christianity Spreads Homosexuality and Hatred of Women . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/heinrich-himmler-on-how-bolshevik-christianity-spreads-homosexuality-and-hatred-of-women
But where are these "Men will not stop being dicks"? Just asking.
That's why parent and society need to raise better sons.
Of the Magic Kingdom of Darkness . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138167431/of-the-magic-kingdom-of-darkness
Try it, see if it works, Casey. Schools are run by school boards and teacher unions, and teachers & administrators LOVE LOVE LOVE phones and social media and do it themselves.
Look online for the videos (taken by students) of their highly paid teachers sitting there glassy-eyed, while on their OWN phones viewing social media. This is real.
You cannot positively influence children, if you do the bad behaviors you want them NOT TO DO. Adults watch social media. Adults live by "clicks, likes and views".
Also: we did decrease teen smoking, but not stamp it out. A lot of young people in my extended family smoke! the BOOMERS all quit or never started... GenX too. Not teens! BTW: it was illegal to buy cigarettes under 21 when I was a teen, but a lot of kids at my high school still smoked. Don't ask me how.
I also agree that schools today are fixated HARD on gender ideology vs. teaching kids things like being skeptical of social media and getting addicted to phones. In fact, TikTok was and is a primary force in "selling" gender ideology to children... and it comes from CHINA (which forbids this kind of teen influencing to their own children!).
In CHINA... TikToks are all about solving math problems and grammar, and being smart in school... positive social values. But in the US, and Europe, they sell dreck and sleaze to OUR children.
this is so true! Adults became more addicted to Facebook early on in order to gather more "friends" and "likes". I'm in the middle of the Boomer gen and I was on early Facebook. When I decided to leave and obliterate my social media account, Facebook sold my personal info to the dark web. Before I left however, there were women I graduated with who were so addicted to the "friends" (people she had NO IDEA who they were) in the thousands and posting the same provocative photos time and time again to get the "likes" and comments her addiction required. She was a shell of the person I thought I used to know by the time I got off social media. Her addiction and anxiety, bullying defensiveness is crying out for some mental health intervention. Too many have submitted themselves to the crack of social media and make excuses to continue. So, YES - adults need to check their own social media behaviors before they think they can EVER influence positive values in their kids, or even spend quality time engaging with THEM instead of their phones. This cannot turn around unless and until the adults become the adults in the room and work on changing and building their own balanced and healthy values, then the cultural values of what they will accept and engage in - or not.
Fakebook disgusts me with the mental gymnastics it subjects it's adherents too. I visit once or twice a week and even with 4500 "friends" find that the information I post is either shadow banned or ignored because so many that live in the bubble of security that they think they are in can't stand it when someone comes along with the needle of reality ready to pop that bubble they surround themselves with. I find that my stack is growing slowly mainly because what I write about most likely bores most people and yet the subjects I delve into are important subjects. Want to know WHY inflation is causing havoc and what started it all? Read "Blood Running In The Streets....." You'll learn more in a half hour of reading than you did in your whole life.
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Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
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“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
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“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
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China raises up drones for their drone system. Individualism is frowned upon. Be a good boot licker and you'll fit right in with Chinese society. Otherwise they will weld your door shut and let you starve to death. I just love it when anyone praises CHINA.
Totally, parents need to get together on this!!
And the parents need to get off social media themselves, set healthy examples!
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
Postman’s Pledge is collective action encouraging parents to abstain from giving their kids smart phones until 8th Grade. We need the critical mass -waituntil8th.org
I have a novel idea...HOMESCHOOL THEM. Now I realize that taking responsibility for your own children's education may be a daunting task for some of you, but in reality IT ISN'T. There are lots of homeschool programs available to teach from that will also teach you. The SACRIFICE? Yes, there is. In my case we gave up over ONE MILLION in salary so that my wife who was an RN could stay home and homeschool her four sons over a 20 year period.. Who btw were also home birthed and had never received a single vaccine up to the day my second youngest influenced by his live in cougar sex doll convinced him to vaccinate. And now he suffers from about five side effects. Mostly mental. Anyhow, the sacrifice was worth it and we just don't have new cars or a new house. We feel it was WORTH IT. Most of you won't and then you'll complain because the 10th plank communist manifesto school you sent your children to converted them into good communists.
Well why did you stop there? If you don't like all the vaccines and cougar sex dolls (ie the realization that the world consists of other people) you should have just pulled out of society entirely and lived like swiss family robinson.
We make up our institutions and can make them better if enough people try.
Or people like you can make them worse. Which is the problem. You keep on supporting the system that is totally against reason, logic and common sense, and I'll do what I can to wake up the other lions. Sheep, like yourself, are of my least concern.
am i naive for thinking the obvious answer is to raise girls with an open, communicative dynamic where you honestly discuss these aspects and dangers of social media with them from an early age? just taking away their phone and banning them from social media will make them want it more. but having real conversations with them about the realities of how it harms people is a place to start. my therapist has two young daughters and tells me how she’s very honest with them about why she won’t let them have access to social media or a smartphone -- because as their parent she is responsible for keeping them safe and if she let them have instagram or tiktok, she’d be harming them. they talk about it very openly together and it seems to be working for her and her kids so far
Huh?
Immediately talking about how girls are raised?
How are BOYS being raised? Who told them it's okay to treat women like this?
Who hurt you? Do you have children? How are "boys" being raised that you are so critical of?
Why can't any of you come up with something original? It's always the same thing, over and over.
Answer the questions. Whether or not you are a successful parent matters. What trauma you may have lived through matters. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU SO THAT YOU ARE SO BROKEN????
What is the same thing, over and over? I'm not quite following you.
Well, sure and I might add "boys too". And it should be discussed in schools, churches, etc.
The problem is... these things are alluring, and no matter how much you tell kids "don't do this"... well, we all know it worked out for drugs... smoking... drinking... sex! and other risky behaviors.
You can be very honest with kids, but frankly when it is a 45 yr old parent telling a 15 yr old teenager "don't do drugs or drink! and stay off social media!" -- you sound like an old fuddy-duddy.
You said don't ban stuff, but then your example of your therapist says SHE DID BAN social media and smartphones... though it is very different to refuse to give a smartphone to a 9 year old vs. a 15 year old.
Again: SHE can ban this, right up to 18. But kids use their friend's phones, at school and otherwise. They can use social media on school or library computers. They can get around most parent controls very easily, unless the parent is high level computer security expert! the hacks are right online.
Does she deny them use of a computer? of search engines? because you would almost have to keep your kid totally computer illiterate to manage this.
It is not unlike trying to educate kids about other things. If you don't want your child to abuse alcohol... do you forbid it? not allow it in the home? not drink yourself? or do you exhibit MODERATION in consumption, by doing things like having a single glass of wine with dinner?
Telling kids not to have sex... "purity balls" and that kind of thing, abstinence education... have failed on a colossal level for decades. Sometimes they result in the opposite of what parents intend: for example, kids who are pushed into purity balls, purity rings, purity pledges... stay technical virgins, but instead engage in anal and oral sex, believe "that isn't real sex and I am still a virgin". That cannot be what parents intended!
This is why I say "the genie is out of the bottle". The best I can do is to model good behavior and tell my grandkids (*my kids are adults with families now!) about the RISKS of social media, Tiktok, Instagram... that they are not "real"... that filters disguise people's true appearances... that they should not believe everything they see, because people lie or try to manipulate viewers. To turn them into educated, sophisticated consumers of social media, but I don't think it will ever go away.
NOTE: I had some friends raised strictly -- Catholic or Mormon -- no alcohol, no smoking, abstinence, etc. -- they hit college at 18 and went WILD because they never learned internal self-control.
My parents were much more balanced. They drank very moderately in the home, and offered us (very small) amounts of wine or beer starting at about 15 (under adult supervision). Not at teen parties, at family holiday meals. They had high expectations for us, but never forbade stuff. They did tell us that "if we had a baby out of wedlock, they would not help us or pay for any of it" because they already had THEIR family and wouldn't raise our kids for us!
The result: zero drinking problems, zero drug problems, zero out of wedlock pregnancies. Now, this was decades before social media, I admit. But I am talking about "banning things you disapprove of" vs. "holding kids to high standards... explaining your values... re-enforcing your values".
Just FYI.
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The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/heinrich-himmler-on-how-bolshevik-christianity-spreads-homosexuality-and-hatred-of-women
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I grew up in the 90s, and my mom and grandmothers were just quietly, but lethally dismissive of women who spent a lot of time on their appearance. If I saw a celebrity magazine at the grocery store, they would say, "Oh, those are magazines aren't for people like us. People like us read magazines about the news." Spending lots of money on clothes and makeup was considered wasteful, and they always pointed out (without malice) people we knew who overspent and got themselves into trouble.
You’ve already reached the conclusion that public schools are actively harming kids. The next step is just a matter of choosing a different option.
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
I appreciate your perspective here but I think the attitude of “it is what it is” and assuming they will find a way breeds apathy. I think we have to make the conscious choice to push back by being the parents who say no. I’m not so naive that I believe that doing so will fully protect my daughters but I do think it will give them a basic healthy foundation to build upon and a home base to come back to. I also think that in saying no, it gives other parents permission to say no as well. We have to choose to be that example or nothing will change for the better.
I really enjoy what you say here about counterbalance too though. This is lacking immensely and I think the root of the problem that is that lack is the technology. It’s like a cycle of unhealthy anti-social isolation, and it builds upon itself-another reason to say no! The concept of counterbalance is one I would love to delve into further, I think it is one of the factors that absolutely contributes to that life experience and resiliency that Freya accurately observes today’s girls are lacking.
Men are the problem.
She won't say that because that is the truth.
Definitely a sane and reasonable argument. Women have controlled the culture for 20 years at this point. They aren’t giving themselves eating disorders for men. It’s social pressure to conform. This is well-established. Slut-shaming and other appearance based pressure is girl to girl.
Women have not controlled culture for 20 years. Men control all pornography websites, including PornHub, as well as every major social media site and dating app (except for Bumble). Males are the vast majority of dating app users (76% on Tinder, the most popular one), pornography website users, and OnlyFans (over 90% of purchases made there are by men).
Men are the problem and they are the source of the issue.
Women are the ones eagerly deconstructing the “patriarchy” and celebrating posting pictures of their holes as empowering.
Men are increasingly on the outside of society which is why they resort to virtual love and intimacy. How can it be that men outnumber women 3:1 on dating apps? What are the women doing? Going celibate?
Either way, you need to do some personal reflection; you are all over this thread denying agency to women and blaming men for women’s behavior. Not a sign of someone with good mental health.
Call up the guys paying for Andrew Rape's Hustler's University courses and tell them about your amazing ideas.
You’re talking about a con artist who is in prison? These aren’t my ideas they are obvious facts to anyone who isn’t blinded by bigotry.
Heinrich Himmler on How Bolshevik Christianity Spreads Homosexuality and Hatred of Women . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/heinrich-himmler-on-how-bolshevik-christianity-spreads-homosexuality-and-hatred-of-women
So Andrew Tate is the culprit here? Good. Try to act on him, instead of on the other 4 billion men.
Are you actively trying to chemically castrate a half of the population? We know that testosterone will influence one's prioritising sex. One sex have gamete release once a month, the other in every ejaculation. That cannot be entirely unimportant. You trying to outlaw the whole sex work industry, because of who knows why, won't solve a thing.
"Men are the problem"… Yes, hammer on, if you think the nail will finally give in. Or not.
the time for outrage is NEVER gone
Interesting that the title says don't let your daughters on social media but nothing about the sons, who cause the problems.
Males are the ones who should be banned. They cause the issues and always escape the blame.
Kat, I've seen you spew hatred towards men on many sites. I mean this sincerely, get help for that hatred and resentment of men. Your life will be better.
Sigh. Nobody hates you. You're not that important. This is the truth and it sounds like hatred to males because that's what you're filled with.
What do you think this comment section is for? What is substack for? What is the purpose of communicating here? This is the point.
I didn't ask for your advice, and you can spare me the concern trolling. Go talk to the guys jerking off to Andrew Tate videos on TikTok. They're the problem.
I concur. Go get help. You cannot feel well, isolating yourself so entirely from constructive interactions with other people.
The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
Kat, you won't want want hear this, but you are the alt-right's straw-man version of a feminist. Everyone who has ever wanted to dismantle feminism, and roll back the hard-won battles for women's equality, has painted the feminist movement as angry, hateful, and more interested in driving wedges between people than in working together to find solutions that benefit everyone. And I'm afraid that's also you.
If you won't calm down for your own sake, please do it for the sake of other women whom you are unintentionally undermining with this behaviour.
Fuck you and your Jewish god . . . The older pagan sexual mores were much more conducive to the health of Nordic-Scandinavian societies and much more supportive of women than those of the Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master who drowned the world and demanded that a witch be burned alive, or an adulteress is stoned to death . . .
Monogamy is an unnatural order created by Zionist churchmen to establish vicarious liabilities in secular law, control monarchical succession, and establish ecclesiastical control over white female reproduction and individual white male posterity . . . All men are born of a woman, married or not.
All of this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood and destructive Jewish religious practices brought to the West via Christianity arose from their desire to destroy the white race.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
It's not 2016. Nobody gives a fuck about the alt right, so your comment is worthless.
And yeah, a random TERF on Substack is the problem, I guess that's how the Supreme Court dismantled Roe v. Wade and mentally ill male trannies get to play women's sports and end up in women's prisons. They're not driving any wedges, it's me and my comments.
I didn't ask for your advice, so keep your concern trolling to yourself. I'm not undermining anything. Women have to file lawsuits to keep men out of girls' bathrooms. Go talk to those men about finding solutions.
In a more perfect world, for the benefit of blue dresses and laundry stains all over America, former U.S. President William Jefferson Clinton would be now making television commercials for Spray 'n Wash®, or as the late Rush Limbaugh so cleverly positioned the advertisement’s timing on his radio program, Spot Shot®.
Whatever happened to Don’t ask, don’t tell? By the way, remember who Bill Clinton put on the United States Supreme Court? She is still kvetching from the grave with the overturning of Roe v. Wade . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/just-shout-it-out
We must outlaw abortion, because Jesus Needs More Babies for His War Machine, not because abortion is a ritual murder performed upon the altar of vanity before an idol of conceit . . . We can’t afford healthcare for American children because we need to keep bombing everyone else’s for the love of Jesus and Israel . . .
There is no “free market,” there never has been . . . it is Jewish Mammonism . . . Every year the USA gives away an $8,000.00 health insurance deductible for every natural born U.S. man, woman, and child, just to Israel alone . . . Israel was just given $20 billion . . . It would cost $20 billion to build apartments for every homeless person in America to live in until they died, and the traitors in Washington D.C. sent ten times that to the cross-dressing gay satanist Israeli operative Volodymyr Zelensky in Ukraine . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
Well, a "random TERF" might try to get to grip with what's bugging her in society. Without it, she might explode in the end.
Please go take your meds.
Okay, great points.
“So, remember, every picture tells a story, don't it…” ― Rod Stewart
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/so-remember-every-picture-tells-a-story-dont-it-rod-stewart
The solution is not just to ban social media. How lazy is that! As you say, there are 1 million other ways for girls to see it and they’re surrounded by people who watch it incessantly. What you need to do is to offer alternatives. Other things to do than sit on your phone, and scroll through this nonsense. Engage! Instilling in them the values of cherishing and protecting their body and themselves.
Exactly... ban it, and you make it "forbidden fruit". What you want, are kids who are skeptical of social media and aware of how it can influence your behavior or your thoughts...
Emphasize how fake it is... how women pose in certain ways, use filters to look unrealistically "perfect" or "skinny"... that just because someone makes a CLAIM on social media or advertising, does not mean it is a fact...that people exaggerate or act weird, crazy, arrogant, etc. to get clicks & views and not because they literally believe the things they say. That a lot of it is "bravado" or trying to look cool and that nobody is like that in real life.
Also, as you say... you need to do OTHER THINGS in life.... hobbies, music, art, religion, FRIENDS (real, not digital ones)... to experience the outdoors, go for walks, run, play sports... be in nature... have time to BE QUIET and just think or listen to the birds or smell the flowers.
One of the biggest though: you cannot tell your kids to DO THESE THINGS... if you yourself sit on your phone every spare moment... pull it out while waiting in lines... at meals... in restaurants... while driving (yeah, even bluetooth)... that you cannot bear even a moment of boredom or constantly wanting to see if "something more interesting might be going on".
If YOU are never there in the moment... never take time to go for walks or play with the dog... never do sports or music or art... cannot even watch a movie without checking your phone... no matter WHAT YOU SAY VERBALLY TO YOUR KIDS... they will take all their clues from your BEHAVIOR.
The most phone-addicted kids... have phone-addicted parents.
So true. The best thing concerned parents and other adults can do is...wait for it...to lead by example. It's not rocket science.
Amen sister. Not fair to ask others to change their behavior if you are not willing to change yours.
Still out the safety app on the phone before you even give it to them. Yes I know they can get around some things but do a spot check. Parents have said to me, but he/she won’t let me see the phone. You own the phone. Not the kid.
You can try, but... most kids know you can find videos online about how to hack ANY parental controls. Good luck.
Their friends all have phones. There are computers at the library and at every school that access the internet and all the sites like TikTok and Instagram.
You can buy a burner phone for $10 or so, and pay for minutes with a phone card. I guess you could never give your kid any money but... most kids have access to allowances and birthday money.
If I really wanted to do this... I'd keep my parent-provided phone clean and keep a 2nd phone for TikTok and other sites. Kids are clever.
You cannot outfox them. So the only way to really TEACH THEM is to be an EXAMPLE... do you sit on your phone all day, ignoring them? do you care more about social media than being "present"? do you all go out to eat, then sit on your phones and not make conversation? DO AS I SAY BUT NOT AS I DO is a classic losing parental strategy!!!
I was able to do both. Kids didn't have a smartphone til 18. I didn't own one either till then. And I presented the research on screens and porn and brain dev. Shared a family computer till the younger was 15. It's all possible. We're a tech family. Husband and I both software engineers, elder son a physicist, younger son actually a video game developer who understands what's at stake
Love your comment - this is a "fun" problem, meaning hard to understand and hard to address.
Our children's schools (grades 6 and up) require the use of an iPad. While they had prior experience from devices we gave them, as soon as we tried to crack down - they might surf rather than work - they'd find workarounds. They'd use "borrowed phones," install VPN on the school device or work out other hacks. I even tried to install home-wide restrictions, which crippled our home network for everything, including the useful stuff we needed. We found the only effective control was restricting the hours to access the network. Even restricting access was a last resort and it wasn't particularly helpful. None of this does any good when they are at school with full access to Wi-Fi.
We are social creatures. Social activities, even problematic ones, are necessities. To help give a little balance in life we encouraged our children to take up sports, volunteer, work, and participate in other activities. We also spent a lot of time making sure that they completed their schoolwork. This often means being right there and monitoring to make sure that they complete assignments. Schools do provide ways to monitor, which partially makes up for the loss of seeing a completed assignment on paper, but the only really effective means to keep kids focused on activities more constructive than social media is to be present and curious. Also, we found that even the teachers aren't always on top of students and their assignments, until it's too late to do any good that is. They can be lax and that is not great when assignments are late. Often our kids would pepper us with - no one else's parents are so up in arms about missing assignments.
Eventually, every one of our children figured out that they needed to limit their time on the apps to reach the goals they cared about. As a long-time computer-literate couple, we found the explosion of social media frustrating. As a culture, we are still sorting our way through.
I want to be hopeful. One thing that we humans are really good at, is copying each other. Our portable computers allow us to do that really well. This is new and we'll find our way through it eventually.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Where there is a lack of will, there are 1,000 excuses.
Good point Lola, and fundamental. We are lacking the counterbalancing IRL (In Real Life) activities we had as children, which were able to keep porn at bay (even in its limited form at the time).
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
Okay I’ve thought abt this a lot!! As a gen z adult who’s grown up with phones but has been shielded from the worst benefits…I will not be giving my kids access to a smartphone until they’re 14 and no access to social media until they are 16. That was the timeline for me. If I have a son, they won’t be allowed violent video games unless it’s an explicit activity that’s regulated with a known friend. But this is hard, and it requires collective action of parents rallying together committing to this plan. It requires demands for schools to ween off of phone uses at early ages, developing a village where our kids are put back out into the real world to play and do team sports and engage in the arts. It requires de-digitized learning that makes AI outsourcing difficult. We have to return to the basics.
Well... for starters, tell the school “no, my child will not be using a phone for these things.” They work for you (or should). Don’t be afraid to be a wave-maker or the “problem parent” with such an important thing. They managed without devices until the last ten years or so--they can go back to doing so again. And if enough parents make enough waves, they’ll stop.
As for kids, tell them WHY you’re doing things. Explain to them the detriments. Sympathize that maybe it doesn’t sound fun now, but it’s for their good. I’ve explained to my ten year old and seven year old why they won’t be allowed social media until they’re adults. Install safety software on your wifi (we have a router that monitors websites and device usage) to protect them when they use computers and tablets.
My own kids watch YouTube, play videogames, etc, but I monitor them while they do it. They are not allowed to use devices in their room. They also have screen times limits and devices automatically shut down when those limits are up. Wifi turns off at a certain time every night. Talk to your kids about internet safety and explain WHY.
Also, put your money where your mouth is and get off your own social media, or drastically cut down your usage. I have been weaning myself off social media use this year. I rarely use it around my kids and now it’s only a couple of times a week for a few minutes, usually just to check for something in a group.
It’s a tough road, and might even be tougher if you have older kids already accustomed to social media usage, but it’s important to build trust and establish boundaries with kids, especially in regards to such vital issues.
1. You can try. Good luck. Teachers are VERY powerful with the richest union in the US, who backs them 100% and doesn't care about parents -- indeed, today they see parents as "the enemy" (Mega MAGA) if you don't quietly kowtow to them.
2. Sure people managed without phones, but they are TOTALLY addicted now. You realize that Apple is the first TRILLION DOLLAR corporation and it ain't because they make Ear Buds or MacBooks.
3. Some social changes are vast and enormous, and none in our lifetimes has been greater than smartphones -- putting a tiny computer in your hand that can both make phone calls, text and surf the internet. AND EVERYONE HAS THEM! you cannot get by without one. I saw a documentary on YAK HERDERS in the remotest part of Mongolia... guess what one of their big challeges is? getting a strong enough signal for THEIR SMARTPHONES. They all have one. YAK HERDERS IN MONGOLIA!
4. Yeah, and tell your kids to brush & floss twice a day, never eat white sugar and do 100 sit-ups. And save their allowance for college tuition. Call back and tell us how it turns out.
5. Not only can kids get around almost ALL phone security... there are tutorial videos ONLINE and your kids can find this at school or on his friend's phones.
6. They won't watch social media AT HOME with you hovering over their shoulders....they will do it when you are not at home, at the library, at school, at their friend's homes. Dude, the schools will TRANSITION your child to another SEX without telling you! put them on birth control without telling you! you think they care about PHONE RESTRICTIONS?
7. How old are your kids? because what you describe might work at 7 or 8... but every year it will work less and less. It won't work for teenagers. They will find a way around it... you can buy a burner phone for about $10. Minute cards for $10-$100. Almost all teens have access to that much money or will find a way to get it. Maybe a way you don't like very much.
8. SOME control is responsible. Too MUCH control becomes heavy-handed and causes rebellion. The kids I grew up with (LONG before smartphones) who had strict, often Catholic parents... couldn't date, no parties, constant supervision... when they left home at 18, went absolutely bonkers because it was like busting out of prison. They had never learned INNER SELF CONTROL.
9. What exactly are you accusing ME of? I'm an adult over 60, retired with grandchildren. I am not on most social media... I have accounts, but rarely use Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, etc. I keep the accounts because it is the only way I get to see photos of family, cousins, grandkids, etc. I never post anything myself.
10. You are not "building trust with your kids" by micromanaging them, and watching them the whole while they are playing video games or on YouTube. Especially if they are teenagers. They know what you are doing and why, and it isn't teaching INNER SELF CONTROL or discipline or high standards and values. it is teaching them that you are a bully and afraid of social media, without understanding WHY you have concerns.
I have confidence I’m raising my kids with correct values and teaching them those values without being legalistic about it. As with most discussions about parenthood on the internet, I see I made a mistake in getting involved, lol.
You seem to be absolutely insisting on seeing everything in the world and reading every single thing anyone says to you in the worst possible light. I’m sorry you feel like the situation is so hopeless. Hopefully you can enjoy the rest of the Christmas season.
This is something I was complaining about to my husband. Not just the 'pornification' of our culture, but sex being shoved down our throats constantly. I was on FB Marketplace looking for a desk, and one of the sponsored ads was for a "sex stone" (essentially a solid lube bar). I'm actually not oppossed to the product, and if id been on a sex-centered website, may consider trying it. But why, in the company's array of offerings, did they have to choose that one to showcase on FB? Why is it always the sexual item? I don't think it's prudish to say "I'd like to shop for a used desk without having my genitals pandered to, thanks."
Ads are targeted at you based on your searches LOL
Algorithms also push things onto people that theyve never looked up. Kids are looking at cartoon memes on instagram and the next thing they scroll past is an AI-hentai looking ad. Algorithms target people its not purely based on your previous search history
Not when you have a VPN....
Then they are targeted based on the searches of whoever was using that VPN before you...
Bingo! LOL. Someone got caught.
Not necessarily, specially if you turn off targeted ads. A lot of advertisers just select "show this to everyone" in their "targeted" ads.
No, not always
if I search for "sex toys" and nothing else about this realm it will still show me anything sex related. is this my fault? is this normal? let's stop taking the big social media platforms side and start calling them out. performance marketing is rigged. AI recommendations also rigged. we are constantly putting the blame on users but Zuckerberg is stacking up his money and doing jiujitsu. come on.
Because you had "sex" in one of your searches. You just outted yourself.
I'm saying. It's ridiculous.
I’m definitely in agreement with this post and will also say, we shouldn’t let our sons near social media either. It’s doing nothing for them in terms of learning to respect and appreciate women.
Why do males have to learn to respect and appreciate women?
Because they don't. Innately. And that is the problem that drives every single problem in the world, from porn to social media to rape in war.
And nobody wants to say that because it's the truth, and heaven forbid we speak honestly about male stupidity and their destructive behavior.
Before I get too far into my response, I want to be upfront and let you know I am a Christian, speaking from a Christian perspective. Not saying I’m speaking for all Christians, just letting you know where my points are coming from. Just take that into account for whatever it’s worth to you.
Your question “why do males have to learn to respect and appreciate women?” and answer because they don’t innately is… well, I don’t know what it is or what to do with it. I’m no expert in what males or females do or don’t do innately. But I know there are there endless examples of good things people do which are not innate and must be learned. Proper table manners, how to dress well, how to use a toilet, how to write or whatever other good thing we may be think of. Maybe respect for others is something we need to learn? maybe it’s somewhat innate but must be nurtured. I’d think that’s probably more likely.
I think it’s very important for I be open and honest about the tragedies of bad male behavior. I also think we do ourselves and society as a whole a major disservice by writing males, boys, men off as stupid or destructive simply because they are biologically male.
I simply refuse to entertain the notion that my 5 month old son, or any man, myself included is innately stupid or destructive. Not saying you called my son stupid or anything like that. I’m not personally offended by what you said. I just don’t agree.
Now, I do believe what all Christians believe that all males and females are born with sin in their hearts and are in need of redemption, but I also believe that they can be redeemed. Toxic masculinity, or stupidity or any destruction caused by men is sin. Period. But that is not something exclusive to men.
I believe men who are redeemed and trying to live Holy lives can use their God-given masculine energy and tendencies to achieve things that are good, amazing, and productive for the rest of society. They can be as beneficial when good as they can be destructive when sinful and misguided, which unfortunately describes many men today. But by the grace of God, not all!
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
@Kat: wow, that's a heavy burden of anger you are carrying.
Respect and appreciation are EARNED, not demanded or given without cause. If you are waiting around for men to suddenly "respect & appreciate you" for no reason... you will have a very long wait.
Do all MEN get respect & appreciation? obviously not. You are thinking of the small subset of men who are powerful, wealthy, physically strong or hold some other kind of power or status. That is not "all men". It is SOME MEN.
Men have their own issues, their own fears and inadequacies and they have to compete in a very harsh world against OTHER MEN.
BTW: men suffer from violence from OTHER MEN, and yes, can be raped by other men... killed by other men... intimidated by other men and so on. And I don't just mean "gay men".
Neither gender has it "all over" the other. And women have largely dropped the ball on feminism, after tremendous gains in the 1960s-1970s....if you talk to younger millennial women today, the majority will insist "they are not feminists". We've let anti-feminist groups (RedPill etc.) brand "feminism" as something dirty or shameful, and NOT FOUGHT BACK.
So how do you fight back against pornification? it isn't going to be by banning it, and driving it underground. It isn't going to be by shaming men for having sexual desires. I believe it begins with educating young women and girls to have more self-respect, and to have higher aspirations than "easy money" or "the male gaze".
But don't kid yourself that PORN and PROSTITUTION are the oldest professions for a reason.
Disney, most of Hollywood, and the Catholic Church should be completely shut down with the RICO Act . . .
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. The law was passed in 1970 and was meant to be the “ultimate hitman” in mob prosecutions.
Organizations like Black Lives Matter, the Catholic Church, Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, corporations like Disney, other 501(c)(3) Tax-exempt Corporations, and teacher unions should be completely shut down with the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).
Under the law, the meaning of racketeering activity is set out at 18 U.S.C. § 1961: Any violation of state statutes against gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in the Controlled Substances Act); . . .
Individuals or organizations can use the RICO Act to file civil claims against racketeering activities performed as an ongoing criminal enterprise.
If your business or property suffers at the hands of a criminal organization, such as a corporation or bank, you may have a RICO claim.
The federal civil RICO statute (18 U.S. Code § 1964) says a plaintiff who brings a successful civil RICO action “shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.”
Under the Florida Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act, a plaintiff can file a civil lawsuit against defendant(s) who engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. Notably, a plaintiff that files a successful civil RICO claim can seek treble damages.
Gross
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
Yes. I hate allowing my son even to watch football or baseball games on tv because the commercials on public airwaves are so offensive anymore. The Macy’s thanksgiving parade was awful.
Truth
Great article! It often feels like there is very little space for women with generally progressive views to have space to express a more nuanced or modest relationship to sex. If you express that you wouldn’t feel comfortable posting a photo of yourself in a tiny bikini on insta or want to wait until you are in a more serious relationship to be sexual with someone, the response is that you hold “conservative” views. I feel like women should be allowed to decide what level of sexuality is comfortable to them without the binary judgement of culture war lines or feeling a pressure to conform (in either direction) to what is designated as appropriate beliefs for their social/political sphere.
So true. I think I was given that freedom in the 90s but girls today are not. It makes me so sad that we're regressing when it comes to female empowerment. And no, it's not the right to abortion that grants such power. It's the right to say no to anything that doesn't jell and walk away unscathed.
I should add: I know this is called "GIRLS" and so your focus is on girls & women, but... this also affects boys and young men. They too see what girls/women "like" or comment on... they are painfully aware that if they are short, homely, awkward, not muscular, not rich, etc. that the girls won't "like them" the way they do celebrities or the most popular guys in school.
They may express it in other ways, by going over to the RedPill movement, or declaring themselves "MG-TOW" or incels or men's rights advocates.
Thank you for your empathy Lola. We're all in the boat together.
No, "we" are not. Unfuckable male losers are not my problem.
And this derailing constantly happens when anyone wants to speak about anything related to GIRLS--the title of this particular substack. The subject must be hijacked because males simply can't not be the center of attention. This is done by males or pickme females (usually boymoms).
I'm sick of it. Men are the origin of the problem.
Kat, if you continue like this you will get banned from the platform.
If a man called you "unfuckable" you would rightly be outraged by it. Nobody, man or woman, is defined by their sexual market value. Please treat others as you would like them to treat you.
Huh?
You seem to have never spent time on the internet or seen how women get treated.
Good luck in life.
I accept that men can treat women appallingly. I do not think the appropriate response is for women to do the same to men. Two wrongs do not make a right.
The thing is men think a woman saying no to them is comparable to men raping and murdering women.
There is no comparison to be made here. Men are the problem.
Men do say that, explicitly, all the time. She's treating others as they've treated her, you just don't like the way your reflection looks.
Lol, acting like girls and women are a fungible good that should be distributed to them even though they're ugly, fat, unfunny losers--yeah, we should focus on that instead of honestly speaking about male violence.
@Kat: I don't think the subject HERE is violence, though there is violence surrounding porn (and you cannot truly discuss porn without talking about the intersection of porn and prostitution).
I have spoken out many times about the RedPill movement, the Manosphere (so called) and how the adherents of these beliefs are low-status males who are as angry as you, but because yes... they think they should get access to women without EARNING that access by good behavior. I never said anywhere that such men (or any men) ARE ENTITLED TO WOMEN or entitled to sex. I don't believe that.
I do think that for every situation where a woman feels disrespected, disempowered, left out of society, rejected by their peers... you can easily find an analogous situation among men. Most men are NOT rich superstar athletes, millionaire movie stars, celebrities, body builders, "captains of industry" or other fantasies -- anymore than all women are fashion models or OnlyFans performers.
Is the subject HERE actually male VIOLENCE? I though it was PORN. Porn can depict violence, but not all or most of it. Sex, even degrading sex, is not necessarily violent. With a few exceptions, most of the women who perform in porn are adults and have consented to do so.
It's too simple to just say "it's men's own fault" anymore than to blame women. All people are capable of making bad choices or being angry, naive, entitled, ignorant, etc.
We don't solve this problem by hating on one another. We solve by working together to make this a better world for everyone.
We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Need to Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
No.
Stop derailing every conversation about women or women's issues and forcing everyone to talk about how fucked up men are and how it's actually both sides because so many men are unfuckable losers.
What's the title of this substack? Why are you crying about the poor, sad menz as if they're the real victims? I don't care. Stop white knighting for male losers.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
You need Jesus. As a recovered sexually abused child, to me it is obvious. You can heal, I promise. Living without the hate and rage changes everything.
We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Need to Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Need to Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american
A path for many Gen Z men.
It's their own fault.
Ugh. As the mother of 3 (including 2 preteen boys, 12 and 10) I all of this disheartening. It seems like an impossible fight to keep your kid safe. It seems like I'm fighting against the school to keep my kids from having constant access to youtube. I am determined, though, to keep my kids phone and social media free for as long as possible.
I did it, my boys were 18 when they got a smartphone and I also went without one until then. They're 24&22 now, but never needed their phones for school work and we had a family computer until they were 16 that they did their work on. And they never need their phones for college, so I don't get why mother lower school would demand it. My eldest is in a PhD program and I just asked if he needs it for school and he was like, what the hell? Of course not.
Great post, it’s devastating and huge problem today. It’s pushed on us everywhere, especially online, horrible for people of all ages, but especially kids.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
It's all true what you say about "the pornification of everything" but there's another hugely important thing that hardly ever gets discussed in journalism about sex. Teenage sex experience has always been VERY DIFFERENT for pretty girls than for what used to be called 'plain' ones. And it's very different for confident cocky boys than it is for shy geeky ones. The social media stresses you talk about in this essay will doubtless have amplified these differences. I discuss all this here: https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/the-less-desired
I so despise what social media had become like for men, as well. Remember watching a Hamza video where he put it well: social media IS porn now.
It's well studied that men are way more visual when it comes to attraction. So you see shorts of women in scant, skin tight clothing at the gym, or doing sports, cosplay, whatever - essentially softcore porn. As a young adolescent male driven by hormones to seek sex, of course you give a "like" and so are served ever more of that.
Imagine how alluring this is: you can follow the accounts of all your favourite "models" and not only will you have daily content of this personal harem you've cheated steamed into your feed, you'll actually get recommendations on who else you might like!
I know people with dedicated porn Twitter accounts. They follow these girls and in conversation will call them "twitter hoes". They'll send their newest ass pics into our gaming group chat and I'm like, man, I don't want to see that right now.
Are you that far gone? It's so sad how social media can lead us astray and reinforce exactly the worst in us.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
*curated not cheated, typing on mobile is hard
I, think it is imperative to stop the glorification of sex for young girls who are barely clinging to an identity and show them a harmful alternative route. I can't imagine being young today being lured into the hellish landscape of social media. It nourishes the ideation of suicide as well as drug use to soothe the insecurity. It's madness and frightening.
Rape is the main weapon of Jihad . . . Jews and Muslims have similar roots and customs . . .
“You shall put all of the males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children and the livestock, and everything in the town – all of its spoil – and enjoy the use of the spoil of your enemy which the Lord gives unto you.” — Deuteronomy 20:13-14
“The Messenger said, ‘If the disbelievers do not accept Islam, kill them, loot them and rape their women.’ And thus, advance Islam and strengthen Islam.” — Al-Bukhaari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 464
It is a sick, sad world for girls. We need grown women to provide compassion, mentorship, and sisterhood- with no apology.
Tell men to stop being the problem. They are the origin of everything that is wrong.
Kat, first off... you need therapy for that anger. Clearly you've been hurt by men in the past, but just saying "men are the problem" solves nothing.
The response of the pro-men side would be "WOMEN are the problem!" -- and I tell them what I just told you. The rage & anger & finger-pointing solve nothing.
To repeat what I said earlier: respect is something you earn... waiting around hoping the other party just "respects you because they SHOULD respect you" will be the longest wait of your life.
Just lecturing people has never worked! has it ever worked for YOU in your life? Screaming "men, you are the problem!" but meanwhile... a disturbing number of young WOMEN today think that it makes perfect sense to sell nude images of themselves on OnlyFans. Are THEY the problem? maybe the problem is ALL OF US and not just one gender.
You don't understand a single thing I'm saying. Men are the problem because the demand side is the problem. If they stopped, the problem would stop. If the women stopped, the problem wouldn't stop because gangs would resort to human trafficking to make money. That's what happens with prostitution. That's the difference.
Don't worry about my anger or give advice for therapy. You don't know me and will never meet me, and even if I was never born, everything I said is true.
Stop making excuses for male stupidity.
And I disagree. There is reciprocity between both sides (I explain more in my earlier post.)
You have zero evidence that there are "pornography gangs" in the US or western world, that would kidnap women and force them to perform on camera for money.
There is SOME forced prostitution -- the sex slave industry -- but it is not the majority by far, and you are in denial that women do this consensually and voluntarily for the most part -- because they like the easy money.
Sorry, but you not speaking the truth. You are speaking out of some deep pain and emotional problems, and a weird hatred of the opposite sex... also an incredibly naive and unrealistic life view that if you rage enough ON THE INTERNET... 4 BILLION MEN will suddenly change their historical lifelong behavior and reign in their sex drive... for YOU, Kat Highsmith.
You are the female version of the RedPills, my dear... raging like crazy without a single useful or valid suggestion for change or even understanding. Change BEGINS with understanding, not with hysteria or anger.
You need therapy and you're speaking out of pain because you're desperate to excuse male behavior. You're the problem.
Prostitution is easy money, you say? Why is the money so easy? Who's choosing to pay, reducing women to commodities? If they didn't pay, the problem wouldn't exist. Men are the problem. Thanks for proving my point.
I'm not the female version of male rapists. I'm not the one running human trafficking gangs and telling men how to do it on TikTok, you sadsack. I'm literally only using words. There is no reciprocity and it's not both sides.
You're the one who needs therapy. Wake up. You won't get cool girl points for this. Pathetic.
I am not the one having a hissy fit because billions of people won't behave exactly the way I think they should, Kat.
I am not the one demonizing 50% of all human beings on earth. I am not raging with anger. So I am NOT THE ONE who needs therapy to deal with my anger.
I haven't excused anybody; I hold all of society to account for social problems and I said both men and women contribute to porn AND prostitution.
I also explained how in any transaction, there is a buyer AND A SELLER. You cannot have one without the other. And your response is "well men will just kidnap women" without a shred of evidence that this is happening (in porn).
You could also eliminate all porn if WOMEN simply agreed to forgo the easy money and "fame" by not appearing nude or in sex acts... right? it's a 2-way street. If there WAS NO PORN, no OnlyFans... the problem would disappear... right?
Except I presume you were alive before OnlyFans started in 2016 and it was obviously already a problem. In fact the BOOK "Pornified" by author Pamela Paul was published in 2005 (!!!) -- I read it back then -- Freya doesn't mention it, but uses the word which I believe is credited to Ms. Paul -- and 2005 is BEFORE iPhones were invented, BEFORE OnlyFans and that means there was relatively little porn one could access WITH A PHONE. (It existed on computers, of course and in print magazines, and on DVD movies.)
How did we get from "porn" to rape? is this about rape? are you a rape survivor, who sees your rapists face in every man consuming porn? Because surely you know -- logically -- that the vast majority of men are NOT rapists and the vast majority of men consuming PORN are not physically assaulting women.
BTW: calling ME names does nothing whatsoever to achieve your goal of a porn-free society. I am not sure why you identify ME as the problem. LOOK AT MY AVATAR, girl. I am a woman, probably old enough to be your MOM. I am not a man trying to justify my consumption of porn, and if you read ANY of my prior comments, you'd know I am against the pornification of modern society -- but I am also a realist who knows you won't make things better by whinging or pointing fingers.
There is nobody handing out "cool girl points", I assure you. I am talking realistically. What are you really asking for here, Kat? You think if you are angry, then 4 billion men will completely change their behavior? overnight? completely lose interest in looking at pictures of naked women?
You are like the "temperance" advocates of the early 1900s, who were POSITIVE if they banned alcohol... that every ill of society would disappear overnight. Instead, they created the modern criminal empires, the Mafia, the whole underground trafficking of a banned substance that went from "liquor" to (after it was legalized again in 1933) to drugs and prostitution. EPIC FAIL!
Demonstrate here what you really mean. HOW will you get billions of men to forgo wanting to view porn? specifics. Not just finger pointing. HOW?
Because if you have nothing to offer but your anger... which is blinding you to the totality of the problem (*i.e., that there is no situation without a buyer AND a seller)... yeah, you pretty much need therapy. And a lot of it.
How disgusting is this comment. Vile.
It saddens me, that you feel this way. And that you are left with all this anger towards men. I wish, that it was that easy for all problematic and bad actors to just stop what they are doing.
Stop with the concern trolling, like I'm sure you're terribly worried about me.
Men are the problem. If they weren't so thirsty and weak, there wouldn't be pornography and camgirls all over the internet. They are the issue. This is demand-driven, not supply-driven.
If all camgirls left voluntarily, human traffickers would resort to kidnapping in order to keep making money. If men stopped watching, the entire market would end and there would be no problem. That's the difference.
I didn't state that I am worried about you. You seem to do just fine. I am sad about how angry you seem to be and how you place all your anger on men as a collective. As if all men are bad. That you statements saddens me, isn't a troll. I am tired of the culture war between men and women, and I am sad that it seems to have manifested itself in you, so that the first thing you believe about my comment is, that it is a troll.
Men have been waging this war for millenia. Call up the men in Afghanistan who throw acid at girls who want to go to school and tell them how you feel about the war. Men are the problem.
Well, I do not think, that they would listen to me. Do you believe that because there are bad men in one place doing bad things that men in all other places are bad too? Or am I misinterpreting your writing?
@Kat: I am not your friend, and my concern is only here on this thread. You don't seriously think random people on the internet "care about you", do you? even those who might agree wholeheartedly, do not give a rat's ass about you.
NO ONE GENDER OR SEX IS "THE PROBLEM". Blindered thinking like that has never solved one single problem in society.
Any situation between seller and buyer has the same dynamic. If only people didn't like getting high on drugs, there would be no drug problem! if only people didn't like getting drunk, there would be no alcoholism!
And a lot of male consumers of porn would indeed blame the supply... that it is a thirst trap. That the women on (say) OnlyFans KNOW how they can tease and manipulate men into giving them money.
Which comes first? the desire or the fulfillment of that desire? does the existence of (say) heroin make people inject heroin to get high? I don't do drugs and probably neither do you. But some people have a desire to get high. How do we deal with that as a society? just by screaming at them "you are terrible people"?
Surely you know that porn and prostitution existed thousands of years ago. They don't call it "the oldest profession" for no reason. Camgirls are incredibly recent... I think OnlyFans started in 2016! You don't think porn existed PRIOR to that?
Or do this thought exercise (I often offer this up to the RedPIll, who are as enraged as you at OnlyFans): why is there no porn for women?
I assure you that it is not because we are more self-controlled or morally pure. Or less interested in the pleasures of sex, or immune to good looking men.
(I'd like to add that porn and prostitution do not require "kidnapping". There are some cases of forced prostitution, but I've never seen "forced to be a camgirl" stories. So men have always wanted to look at porn, and there has always been a steady reliable stream of women willing to provide it -- for money.)
Does your theory -- just stop consuming the thing you want -- apply to drugs, alcohol, fast food, consumer spending or other bad behaviors? an dif not, why not?
You are serious mental problems. Get professional help.
Hi Freya,
I really appreciated this article, and I appreciate your work in general. I just wanted to chime in concerning your media selection, given that I have historically struggled with pornography addiction I am suspect that some of your audience may be in that same boat. I personally find photos such as the header image triggering in a way that I just wanted to make you aware of. For me, it was not a big deal because I am far along on my recovery journey. Others, I fear, may have found it more difficult to deal with.
I would like to emphasize that this is not a criticism, I really appreciate your voice in the barrens waste of the internet.
I love that you wrote and expressed all of this. And I hate that this happens 24/7 and is “normalized”. I’ve been on the side of getting sucked into OF and trying to sexualize myself. I had the insight to realize I didn’t want to do that and be known for that. It hurts me that young women who really haven’t had any guidance, besides from social media and society, think that this is how they can be recognized or heard or show their value. My biggest hope for this world is that this doesn’t get minimized and normalized but that we minimize this from further continuing.
Couldn’t agree with you more. I’m 40 years old and have felt the unbelievably strong pressure to pornify myself and compete with all the women on Instagram that are “a lot more attractive” than I am.
... Quote being from my boyfriend whom also simultaneously claimed that he “respects women”. No man that respects women would speak to a woman he claims to love that way. This behavior is a direct result of men being taught that porn is healthy and normal, and women prancing around like ponies in a sick side show is fun and harmless.
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
The Frankfurt School adapted Marx’s theories on revolution to include Freud’s theory of the subconscious. The Cultural Marxists’ main focus was to reshape the subconscious of Western men and women and thus create new type of person: one who would react passively to provocations of all kinds.
Cultural Marxists encourage abortion, birth control, divorce, homosexuality, “carrier women,” drugs, miscegenation, the destruction of the traditional family, and unrestricted immigration of racial foreigners into white countries. This is a reflection of what the Cultural Marxists preach: white reproduction is evil, and that which prevents white reproduction is good.
https://nordicresistancemovement.org/what-is-cultural-marxism/
As I pointed out in Freya’s first article in November, getting kids off social media is one thing, but then what alternative activities do they have, given the virtual disappearance of IRL (In Real Life) activities for them to fall back onto?
To see just how big the challenge is, consider how children grew up before the internet. Here are the chapters in my book, Life Before the Internet, devoted to home and family:
Ch 3 – Children learned to fend for themselves
Ch 4 – Children played with each other, not with phones
Ch 5 – Children played for hours outdoors
Ch 7 – Children had limited access to pornography
So even if we were somehow able to get them off social media and access to porn, we no longer have the IRL activities of childhood as outlined in Ch 3-5, due to a combination of over-protective parenting and the internet.
I think it is time to look at the bigger picture beyond just restricting teen access to social media (which is a given and should be done) and also addressing the IRL activities they need to fall back onto for this to stand a chance of succeeding.
(My original comment here https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/algorithms-hijacked-my-generation/comment/43429455).
Thanks Freya for your insights. You amplify the concerns of parents and young people everywhere. There is so much data coming out that shows how social media has wreaked havoc on an entire generation, and we need to inform, educate and support those dealing with the impacts on a personal/family level.
Of all the teenage girls I know, only one is not in therapy - the one whose parents refused to give her a smart phone until she turned 15, who is not permitted on social media and whose use of the phone is monitored electronically and when she is at home, is not allowed to have it in her bedroom. This girl experiences the ‘usual’ anxiety and social awkwardness that is the lot of teenagers, but she doesn’t derive her self worth from the opinion of strangers and doesn’t sexualise herself. I hope this continues for her - life will throw her enough challenges without social media destroying her sense of self and self worth.
Great piece! Food for thought.
The comments below, about an outright ban being both unworkable and potentially back-firing, ring true.
However, I don't think it's all doom either. I see many older women now, taking on the role of guiding or providing mentorship for girls transitioning to womanhood. Just the other day, I saw an invitation to an art therapy workshop for 10-13 year old girls, to celebrate menarche and the rite of passage from girl to woman. It was a beautifully crafted invitation, acknowledging the grief and potential confusion that goes with saying farewell to childhood and the joy, that goes with embracing womanhood conscsiously, guided through the wisdom of older women.
And let's face it, there is nothing in this world and I mean nothing, more powerful than a circle of women gathered consciously! In providing such safe spaces within our own communities for girls to express their fears, anxieties and dreams; a space to explore their own embodied experience of what it is to be a girl / woman - pleasure and pain; to imbibe the experience of older teens and women; who knows but that girls may begin to question themselves, whether they want to give their time, attention and energy to the unending and deadening drivel on-screen.